Fw: Browser support for CSS and DHTML

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ineke van der Maat" <inekemaa(at)xs4all.nl>
To: "Bert Doorn" <bert(at)betterwebdesign.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Browser support for CSS and DHTML


> Hallo Bert,
>
> I think you take the right decision. I also learned from the Oliverbook
(in
> Dutch translation) writing HTML4. For me was it the right book, very
clearly
> written and something about graphics etc.
> In chapter 20?  I read something about the W3C-site and took a look. Since
> that time I let the book the book I programmed some accesssibility
> (Compliance priority 1  in Bobby, is in the Netherlands till now unknown)
> and learn now so quick as possible XHTML 1.1 strict. I don't know much
about
> design , but I subsribed the WAI-mailinglist (Accessibilitygroup of W3C)
> and now there is somebody who learn me all about design (is a gift from
> heaven I think).
> Do you have a screenreader, Lynx or a voice-browser for testing your
sites?
> Did you already see www.nokia.com/xhtmldemo ,  a mobile telephone only for
> XHTML and CSS? And did you see your site in webTV?
> That is really more important for future than thinking of old browsers and
> HTML-tags that are obsoleted like font. This tag is very bad for
> screenreaders  and voice browsers. I use therefor  stylesheets and
willnot
> have any fonttag in my site when I have finished the template!!
> .I am just creating a new template for my site  and will offer my site
only
> in XHTML 1.1 strict with  valid XHTML  adaptions for older browsers. I
will
> learn  how to do that, but it seems to be possible.
>
> You know DHTML has allready been succeeded by DOM  (can used with XHTML,
see
> W3C-site)
>
> Greetings
> Ineke van der Maat
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bert Doorn" <bert(at)betterwebdesign.com.au>
> To: "HWG Basics" <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Browser support for CSS and DHTML
>
>
> > Hi John and list
> >
> > Like you, I used to concern myself with older browsers, going to great
> > lengths to make sure a site I developed would look OK in such old
browsers
> > as Internet Explorer 2/3, Netscape Navigator 2/3 and NCSA Mosaic 3.
> > .
> > However, I have (only today) decided to follow the WaSP Browser Upgrade
> > Initiative (see http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/).  I believe I got
> the
> > link from this list (was it Christopher who gave us that one?  I'm
getting
> > old!)
> >
> > I will write valid HTML4 or XHTML1, combined with valid CSS.  Some sites
> > might look less attractive in IE3 or NN3.  Can't be helped.  If someone
> > still wants to use a black&white TV without an aerial, IMO they forego
the
> > right to complain about poor picture quality.  And of course, buying a
new
> > TV would cost them money, but most browsers are FREE these days, as
> > downloads and often on CD's that come with magazines.  The only time I
> will
> > not follow this approach is when a customer doesn't want me to.
> >
> > I have not yet started to re-design my business site (will do that
later),
> > but have started re-developing the "Beginners' Website Design Tips" site
> > (non profit, more of a hobby site but with advertising for my business)
at
> > http://www.bwdzine.com/bwdt/    The "home" and "site planning" pages are
> now
> > written in valid XHTML 1.0, and the site uses valid CSS.  The
"Designing"
> > page is still in valid HTML 4.01.
> >
> > I was surprised at how easy it was to convert from (already valid) HTML
to
> > XHTML.  It's a pity that my WYSIWYG editor destroys my valid code, as it
> > means I've had to go back to hand coding (or at least, fixing the code
> > before uploading to the server)
> >
> > The pages mentioned above look best in IE4 and 5.5 (surprise, surprise),
> > almost as good in Opera 4 and not too bad in NN4.03 and 4.77 (on PC's
> > running Win95 and 98, at resolutions ranging from 640x480 in 256 colors
to
> > 1280*1024 in TrueColor).  They still display OK in NN3 and IE3.
> >
> > If anyone wants to visit the site with another configuration and see how
> it
> > looks, be my guest.  Feedback on the success (or failure) of this
approach
> > (not a critique of the site) is welcome (off-list).
> >
> > I realise this does not answer your question directly, but it might give
> you
> > some food for thought.
> >
> > Regards
> > --
> > Bert Doorn, Web Developer
> > Author of Beginners' Website Design Tips
> > http://www.bwdzine.com/bwdt/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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