Re: Thank you Microsoft!!
by "Richard and Jolene Johnson" <jonric(at)tx3.net>
||Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:39:32 -0700
||"Joseph Nagy" <joseph_a_nagy_jr(at)hotmail.com>,
"Ted Temer" <temer(at)c-zone.net>,
||0 localhost hotmail
RE: virus creators:
*There is not hate towards them because they provide a nescessary service.
finding these loopholes and making us aware of them.*
If there weren't people who make viruses, we wouldn't need them to point out
loopholes! That's like saying we need burglars or terrorists to point out
our security weaknesses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Nagy <joseph_a_nagy_jr(at)hotmail.com>
To: Ted Temer <temer(at)c-zone.net>; HWGBASICS <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Thank you Microsoft!!
> Joseph A Nagy Jr
> Web Master
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Temer" <temer(at)c-zone.net>
> To: "HWGBASICS" <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 20 September, 2001 13:54
> Subject: Re: Thank you Microsoft!!
> > Fuzzy:
> > > Makes you want to buy a whole "suite" of M$ products and mail them to
> > > Middle East - doesn't it.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > > Fuzzy.
> > > <Has a copy of NT Server to donate>
> > >
> > Hey---They can't have my MS products !!
> > Actually--It makes me want to be sure that I keep up on all the latest
> > patches and service packs. BTW--Microsoft suggests that regardless of
> > type of Windows you are running--if you have the latest updates
> > you have little to worry about with this latest "worm". Among several
> > things, the latest patches available would have already blocked the
> > and thusly, this new virus would lose it's primary "way in" to your
> I have all the updates up to IE ServPack 2 (for 5.5). I refuse to
> plug-ins. I have a dial up connection which means I don't have the time to
> download a new browser or service pack every time some new technology
> along in the middle of an MS update cycle.
> > Having IE on my system meant that installing MS's IE Service Pack 2 also
> > went in and strengthened the whole Windows system. And that's something
> > can't do with Netscape, no matter all the whining and crying by the DOJ.
> Thats because NS isn't fully integrated into the OS.
> > One thing that does occur to me ... WHY are so many seemingly blaming
> > Microsoft because their products are being victimized?? Of course, these
> > whacko's will pick on MS products. After all, they outnumber all the
> > many times over. Where is the hate and venom for the creators of the
> > viruses??
> There is not hate towards them because they provide a nescessary service.
> finding these loopholes and making us aware of them.
> > The thing to keep in mind here--is that ALL systems are at risk unless
> > works to protect them. And if you do your homework and keep your system
> > to date, then Windows--even the NT series--is really not all that much
> > susceptible than any other system. It just gets picked on more because
> > its overwhelming popularity. And because of all this, we are more aware
> > the Windows shortcomings. But don't for a minute, think that Windows is
> > ONLY system with holes !!
> Linux has holes, but the last linux virus I heard that was going around
> actually plugged up one of them before moving on.
> > After all--if you wanted World Wide results--who would bother developing
> > some fancy virus for WordPerfect instead of Word -- Or Netscape instead
> > IE -- Or the Mac system instead of Windows?? There just aren't enough of
> > them around to make it worth a virus hacker's time.
> Actually, Linux users are starting to get up into the realm where BG
> does have something to worry about. Just look at the NYSE, they converted
> over all their systems to Linux back in August, why? Because the loopholes
> are small and you can fix them your self when you find them.
> > Let's be fair. If a bunch of miscreants started aiming their work at the
> > Mac, would Steve Jobs spend as much time, effort and money as Microsoft,
> > keeping up with fixes for all the latest worms that would then show up??
> Nope, because Bill Gates owns Steve Jobs and Mac and BG will want to put
> more money into MS.
> > And don't kid yourself, Mac's--or any other system may need different
> > approaches than Windows NT--or Word--or Active X or whatever. But--those
> > other systems can still be "had" by anyone willing to devote the time
> > effort to do it.
> Without root on a Linux box, you can't do much of anything worth while
> good luck getting root on a Linux box you don't own/control).
> > Best wishes
> > Ted Temer
> > Temercraft Designs Redding, CA
> > temer(at)c-zone.net
> > www.temercraft.com/novels/
> > www.andersonparkflyers.org
> > www.newsredding.com/
> > www.ramac-rc.org/
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