Re: Mac HTML editors

by "Edward & Charla Springer" <egs(at)hiwaay.net>

 Date:  Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:31:18 -0500
 To:  "Jim Tom Polk" <jtpolk(at)texas.net>,
<hwg-basics(at)mail.hwg.org>
 References:  texas
  todo: View Thread, Original
Good Morning HWG Basic List,

I guess that when you respond to an e-mail late in the evening you can
expect to be a bit unclear.

In my origninal response the point I wanted to make is this;

1. If you use software that is being sold as a product in order to produce
content for which you are paid you should, whether it is commercial off the
shelf, mail order, or distributed by sharware, pay for that software and not
use "demo" versions for commercial (make money) purposes. Demo versions are
just for that, for you to test run to see if they fulfil your needs and if
you want to purchase it for your use.

2. If you are using a graphics software to produce GIF graphics for sites
that you are developing for a client you need to use properly licensed, that
means payed for, software to protect yourself and your client from
liability, as was explained in Jim Polk's reply.

3. By "professional web developers" I mean people who make a living, or
otherwise get paid, for developing and creating web based content. Whether
you run your own business, are employeed by someone, or freelance.

4. My personal opinion is that if someone creates a program and offers it
for sale, again either by off the shelf sale, mail order, or through the
sharware channels, they expect to and should be paid for that product. Using
"demos" or unregistered shareware beyound the agreed to demo period is
stealing, plain and simple. My son works for a major retailer, he always
tells of customers who come in, purchase a high priced product, then return
it, used, in a few days. Obviously, the intent was to "rent" the product
with no intent of keeping it. To him, and me, that is stealing.

I know that many people will flame me for this view point. Don't care, big
boy, can take it. BUT, for those who think that I am off base, ask yourself
if you would like it to happen to you after putting hard work and valuable
resources into developing and offering for sale a product. How long would
your employer stay in business if people did that to their products?

Edward Springer
Athens, Alabama

PS: My apologies for getting off topic.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Tom Polk <jtpolk(at)texas.net>
To: <hwg-basics(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: Mac HTML editors


> I'm the one that wrote that.
>
> The only place where I insist upon using a commercial product that has a
> proper license is on GIF files and that is basiclly because UNISYS is
> wanting you to either prove that the GIF files are produced by properly
> licensed software (i.e. they paid the money to UNISYS to incorportate
> the patented LZW compression algorithim into GIF files), or pay them
> 5,000 to 10,000 or more to them to protect you from being sued by them.
>
> Oh, and if you are a for profit site, well, contact their sales
> representatives and they will work something out. (see below)
>
> Actually, we may be seeing companies  PNG because of this...Accuweather
> is switching to PNG because UNISYS wanted 3.8 Million dollars to display
> GIF files on their website.
>
> http://technews.netscape.com/news/0-1005-200-1713278.html?tag=st.ne.1002.
>
> My point was not against non-commercial software (heck, I run Linux and
> work for an ISP who runs nuthing but Linus servers) but against
> unlicensed GIF producing software that could get one's client into
> trouble with UNISYS. You see, they know that the producers of GIF's
> don't have much money, so they changed their patent requirements so that
> not only is the designer responsible, but the company he designs for as
> well (which IS where the money is).
>
>
>
> > >Someone mentioned in a recent post that a web designer shouldn't use
> > >unregistered software, or was it non-commercial software (I can't
>remember).
> >
> > I don't get it. In either case, it's El Toro Poopoo. Web publishing is
> > kinda like surfing...if you're good, you can do it on a dang bed slat!
> > Heck...I have all kinds of little freeware and public domain editors
that I
> > use. Although I do own FrontPage, and have evaluated other HTML editors
> > (WYSIWIG and text alike), what it comes down to is whatever an author is
> > comfortable using...free or temporary. I mean, all we need is for the
code
> > to stick to the mylar, right? So, IMHO, use whatever you choose.
> >
>
> --
>
>
> Jim Tom Polk -:- jtpolk(at)texas.net -:- http://camalott.com/~jtpolk/
> ''You might as well fall flat on your face as
>   lean over too far backwards.''      --James Thurber--
>    "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three
>           elements: energy, matter and enlightened self-interest."
>   - G'Kar  "Survivors"
>

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