Re: Question about database driven sites

Keith,

The rep is wrong.  My experience with UltraDev/Cold Fusion databases have 
only been with the database on a Unix server.  Specifically,  we connected 
to an Oracle database running on Linux as well as Solaris.  I do not have 
the specific details you asked because I was not the Oracle DBA nor the 
*nix sys admin on the project.

Next time that rep shows up, point him/her to 
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/matrix/cf5_matrix.pdf 
where they will see a CF database runs on various flavors of *nix.

Then look at 
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/datasheet/cf5_datasheet_4pg.pdf 
where they will see CF Server 5 Professional and Enterprise versions run on 
Windoze and Linux (with Enterprise also running on Unix - Solaris and HP-UX).

Dennis


At 06:56 PM 11/8/01 -0500, WebGraffix Internet Design and Consulting wrote:
>I would be very interested in knowing the specifics of your setup.  A
>UltraDev rep told me that it could not be run on a UNIX platform.  We run
>Apache FreeBSD.  It may be possible on Linux.  Can you provide me some more
>details on your OS setup?  (... what flavor of linux, etc.?)  I do a LOT of
>database work and much of it is outsourced.  I would be more than willing to
>learn ColdFusion if I could install and run it on my server.  It could save
>me thousands of dollars each year if I could keep some of the outsourced
>work in house.
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Keith D. Sellars
>WebGraffix
>www.webgraffix.com
>email: Keith(at)WebGraffix.com
>
>"Database solutions for information packed web sites"
>
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>
>Rick Jones wrote:
>
> > That's not true. We use Coldfusion running on Linux, using MySQL and
> > PostgreSQL databases for the backend. You could use Ultradev with this
> > setup. I use Dreamweaver and ColdFusion Studio in tandem.
> >
> > Rick Jones
> > Online Information Manager
> > NAHRO - Nat. Assoc. of Housing and Redevelopment Officials
> > www.nahro.org
> > 202-289-3500 ext 248
> > Toll Free 877-866-2476
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebGraffix Internet Design and Consulting
> > [mailto:Keith(at)webgraffix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:13 PM
> > To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> > Subject: Re: Question about database driven sites
> >
> > The biggest issue that I have with UltraDev is that the database must be
> > on a
> > Windows server.  I am strongly attached to UNIX servers because they are
> > not as
> > inherently susceptible to virus and worm attacks as the Windows servers
> > are in
> > general.  The recent Code Red and Nimda attacks have proven this.  We
> > serve a
> > lot of school systems in Georgia with one of our sites
> > (www.schoolpad.net), and
> > I am shocked at the amount of school systems that have been infected and
> > had
> > their servers go down as a result.  ALL of them have been on Windows
> > servers
> > that were not properly setup and proteced in most cases.  Many of the
> > default
> > settings of the Windows operating systems make them very susceptible to
> > virus
> > and worm attacks (like open unused ports, etc.), whereas UNIX is nowhere
> > near
> > that susceptible.
> >
> > --
> > Keith D. Sellars
> > WebGraffix
> > www.webgraffix.com
> > email: Keith(at)WebGraffix.com
> >
> > "Database solutions for information packed web sites"
> >
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> >
> > Katherine Pollara wrote:
> >
> > > Pam,
> > > You want Dreamweaver UltraDev, which is only in version2, so a bit
> > buggy.
> > > Itcomes with with Cold Fusion, which is a great program that I am just
> > > beginning to learn.  You can connect this to any database like Access,
> > > FoxPro, Oracle, depending on your needs.  You can use standard SQL for
> > > queries.
> > >
> > > Although UltraDev is relatively new, you can expect great things in
> > terms of
> > > upgrades.  The fact that Macromedia owns both Dreamweaver and Cold
> > Fusion
> > > means a virtually seamless environment.  The visual nature of these
> > programs
> > > working together make it far faster than using ASP or similar
> > technologies.
> > > Although ASP may appear to be cheap upfront, the cost in time must be
> > > figured into the equation.  The word is that CF is geared toward very
> > rapid
> > > development. It has a lot of built in functionality that you won't
> > find in
> > > ASP, where you have to write out everything manually. The return on
> > > investment is well worth it.  Or this is what they tell me.
> > >
> > > If you are in the Central NJ area, as I am, you may want to check out
> > > courses at Rutgers Internet Institute:
> > > http://iti.rutgers.edu
> > > where there is a program devoted to Data-Driven Site Building.
> > > Surely, there must be comparable courses elsewhere that will get you
> > going
> > > very quickly.
> > >
> > > Kate Pollara
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Pam Farley
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:49 AM
> > > To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> > > Subject: Question about database driven sites
> > >
> > > I do not have any current experience with database driven sites, but
> > my
> > > company has been approached by a company that needs to have their site
> > set
> > > up in this manner.
> > >
> > > I have been asked to look into this with Dreamweaver or GoLive as the
> > > program to use.  Can anyone point me in a direction to begin and/or
> > provide
> > > a list of pros and cons?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Pam Farley


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