Re: ex web client is stealing my images and holding my poetry hostage

by Lori Eldridge <lorrie652(at)icehouse.net>

 Date:  Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:09:22 -0800
 To:  "Listuser" <listuser(at)rogers.com>
 Cc:  hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
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>I used to work for the abuse department of an ISP, and whenever someone such as yourself would contact us with similar issues (and there were quite a few) we would tell them that it is a civil issue and we would not get involved. An ISP has no idea of what agreement was made between you and this other person. You claim they are your pictures, he says no - who is the ISP to believe. The ISP is not breaking any laws as there is no way for them to know who is right or wrong, nor is it up to them to determine this - they are not a court of law. Like someone else said, cut your loses and move on.

It is very easy to prove these images are mine because I have the original photographs which I have offered to provide proof to my ISP  and I never signed any rights away to these images and I've had them on my web design site for months before this site was ever designed and my ISP/Web Host has the means to verify that by just looking at my files to see they haven't been changed in all that time. And they are too breaking the law by merely refusing to investigate the matter as the following article stated. And none of these images were work done for hire either.

Apparently you are not a graphic designer or you wouldn't be so quick to give up rights to your own creations. And it's not just my images--he is also refusing to remove my poetry and he still has my "This site is designed by....myself" notification and personal photo of myself, etc.. He just wants the site to look normal but he has no webmaster to take over and he can't do it himself so he is holding my work hostage until he can replace it. His site would be naked without my images.

Lori

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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lori Eldridge" <lorrie652(at)icehouse.net>
>To: "David D Pippen" <pipwax1(at)bellsouth.net>
>Cc: <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:02 PM
>Subject: RE: ex web client is stealing my images and holding my poetry
>hostage
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>> >I would not lose sleep On this issue, the fight is far to great with to
>> >little gain. But it is funny you should bring this up I think we need to
>> >look in to copyright Issues for future projects
>>
>> I was just informed that my web hosting service (same as my client) is
>breaking the law because they decided to not get "involved".
>>
>> When is an ISP liable for the Acts of it's Subscribers?
>>
>http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/article.cfm/objectID/1902780E-68C9-436B-9
>25AC37E42F4CD71/catID/1D5464D1-2A36-45C3-95897F115FEEB097
>>
>> Lori
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