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Hello, All,
Finally ready to ask your critique of my Atlantic one design site,
officially for the Atlantic Class Association, a fleet racing
organization.
Would like to use this site as one of a couple on my resume, as a
reference for doing site development and HTML coding.
Thank you for your thoughts and comments,
Loralyn Helms
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:15:35 -0700 (MST)
owner-hwg-critique-digest(at)mail.hwg.org (hwg-critique-digest) writes:
>
>hwg-critique-digest Sunday, March 28 1999 Volume 01 :
>Number 248
>
>
>
>Topics discussed in this digest:
>
> Re: New Home
> Re: New Home
> Starr said something that made me think/I hope this is not TOO off
>topic.
> Baobab Tours critique request
> Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
> Re: Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
> RE: Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
> Critique of [Spanish] Site
> release the hounds...
> Re: release the hounds...
> Re: release the hounds...
> Request for Critique (High School Alumni Site)
> Phillips Group, brand new attempt.
> Critique of [Spanish] Site II
> Personal Site Review Requested.
> Updated website; please critique
> Re: Phillips Group, brand new attempt.
> Please critique first frames
> Re: Please critique first frames
> Re: Please critique first frames
> a new domain
> Re: a new domain
> countdown9199.com????
> Sleuth Needed
> State Agency web site-Mouseover question
> Critique please
> Re: Critique please
> Critique please
> Please critique.
> Re: Please critique.
> Re: Please critique.
> Please critique
> Re: Critique please
> Re: State Agency web site-Mouseover question
> Biographies
> Site Critique
> Re: Site Critique
> Re: Site Critique
> Re: Biographies
> Critique Please
> RE: Biographies
> Re: release the hounds...
> Re: Site Critique
> DOWNLOAD SPEED
> Re: DOWNLOAD SPEED
> RE: DOWNLOAD SPEED
> Re: DOWNLOAD SPEED
> Fw: Virus alert!
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:41:41 -0600
>From: Jack Tumlin <jack(at)twsolinc.com>
>Subject: Re: New Home
>
>Hi Carol,
>
>Took at look at your new place http://www.cbwdesign.com. Visited using
>MSIE
>4.0, 800x600, 26.4k.
>
>Liked your design. Thought it was very well lay out and has a lot of
>content. Liked how you put your personality into it :).
>
>I can't find anything to change. Either I'm too tired to find
>anything or
>your have a nice site.
>
>You have a nice site!!!
>
>
>Jack Tumlin
>Tumbleweed Solutions, Inc.
>Jack(at)twsolinc.com
><http://www.twsolinc.com/>http://www.twsolinc.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:00:22 -0500
>From: Nancy <jnwhittley(at)fuse.net>
>Subject: Re: New Home
>
>Hi Carol,
>
>Viewed with Win98 NN4.5 v90 modem connection 48,000bps
>17" Monitor 800 x 600
>
>Loaded Fast, very clean design. I very much like your man and easel.
>I think you put very unique content through the site, a sense of humor
>is so needed these days.
>
>If it was me I would put the screensavers link somewhere else in your
>site.
>It is an invitation to leave your page, right there, and it is a large
>logo and
>it caught my eye first thing. You might have people leaving and
>getting
>
>into their site before they have a chance to look at yours.
>
>That is one of those juicy treasures that you offer people but put it
>deep
>in your site so they have a chance to explore your site before they
>find
>it.
>Other wise the site is very nicely done. easy to navigate. I am fond
>of
>
>the Paint Shop Pro links, those are a treasure in themselves.
>
>Great Job!
>- --
>Sincerely,
>
>Nancy Whittley
>Ohio Web Design
>http://www.ohiowebdesign.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:43:18 -0800
>From: "Carol Parent" <parent(at)djam.com>
>Subject: Starr said something that made me think/I hope this is not
>TOO off topic.
>
>I have listed on my site places to go to get "free" web space. I
>listed
>them more for people that are looking for places to put personal
>homepages.
>What I was thinking is doing a page that would be listed as "hosting
>services". If anyone would like to list their hosting service let me
>know.
>I am going to noodle this a bit. Pls email me privately if you would
>like
>to have a link put on my site. What would be fun, is if you have a
>logo
>that I could place also. I think graphics are so much more effective
>then
>plain old text. <smile> Possibly to, what your hosting service
>provides as
>support; like, Front Page, Cold Fusion, PHP, ASP, etc.
>
>http://www.cbwdesign.com
>
>Carol
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:38:49 GMT
>From: Jennifer Bedlow <jennifer(at)gizzy-b.dircon.co.uk>
>Subject: Baobab Tours critique request
>
>Hello!
>
>I'm in the process of creating a site for a small eco-tours company in
>Ghana. The site is unfinished in content (and no doubt spelling +
>grammar),
>but the basic design components are in place.
>
>I would be very grateful if you could take a look at it and let me
>know
>about anything you notice; good or bad.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jennifer
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:43:06 GMT
>From: Jennifer Bedlow <jennifer(at)gizzy-b.dircon.co.uk>
>Subject: Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
>
>Sorry! It's the first critique request for me, and I was nervous when
>writing the e-mail. Forgot to include the URL:
>http://www.gizzy-b.dircon.co.uk/baobab/index.html
>
>Hello!
>
>I'm in the process of creating a site for a small eco-tours company in
>Ghana. The site is unfinished in content (and no doubt spelling +
>grammar),
>but the basic design components are in place.
>
>I would be very grateful if you could take a look at it and let me
>know
>about anything you notice; good or bad.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jennifer
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 13:23:30 -0500
>From: Chris Luciano <cluciano(at)total.net>
>Subject: Re: Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
>
>>
>> http://www.gizzy-b.dircon.co.uk/baobab/index.html
>>
>
>I reviewed this site with:
>
>Netscape 4.5, 33.6, Win 98...
>
>I liked the site. Clean design, easy to follow nav system.
>
>Good Job!
>
>Chris Luciano
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:13:17 -0800
>From: "Marion Podolski" <marion(at)podolski.com>
>Subject: RE: Baobab Tours critique request (with URL)
>
>> http://www.gizzy-b.dircon.co.uk/baobab/index.html
>> I'm in the process of creating a site for a small eco-tours company
>in
>> Ghana. The site is unfinished in content (and no doubt spelling +
>> grammar), but the basic design components are in place.
>
>Hi Jennifer,
>
>I really like your design - very appealing. The red background looked
>rather
>bright on its own before the rest loaded, but it is a great match for
>the
>mangoes(?) you use at the foot.
>
>One small gripe is that I didn't like scrolling down to the bottom to
>get to
>the business end of the navbar! Possibly I would feel differently if I
>was
>there for interest rather than for critique! It's my personal option,
>but I
>think there's more than just me out there with a trained reflex to
>look for
>the navigation at the top of the page.
>
>As you say in your email, it's not finished yet, but you have an
>excellent
>start, I would say! I'm looking forward to seeing the final version.
>
>regards
>
>Marion
>
>MSIE 4.01, NN 4.04, 28k modem, 24 bit Color, 1280x1024 with Large
>Fonts
>- --------------------------------------------------------
>
>Marion Podolski
>
>Podolski Consulting: Business Analysis and Web Design
>Visit us at http://www.podolski.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:19:18 -0700
>From: Rachelle Drouin <wade.martineau(at)telusplanet.net>
>Subject: Critique of [Spanish] Site
>
>Hello, all
>
>http://members.xoom.com/Frida_Kahlo/
>
>I am working on a multi-language site at the moment, and the Spanish
>version is almost done. From the main page, follow the link from the
>image on the right-hand side to enter the Spanish version. The
>graphical interface for the English version will be identical to this;
>I
>just don't have the text keyed in yet. I hope to have the English
>version of the text up soon, though.
>
>Would you mind taking a few moments to review/critique it? And before
>you say it doesn't view ideally on browsers whose resolution is set to
>larger than 800 pixels wide (i.e. too much white space to the right),
>I
>designed the layout in accordance to the Yale Style Manual, in order
>that the printed page print the "graphics safe" areas without
>truncating
>anything.
>
>I'd be interested in knowing what you think of the graphical
>interface,
>balance, and color scheme, as well as the navigation. Note the the
>link
>to the bibliography doesn't work as yet, and not all the footnotes
>have
>been entered, but the image maps and arrows DO work. Please let me
>know
>about d/l times too.
>
>I look forward to your input.
>
>Thanks and sincerely,
>Rachelle Drouin
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 00:42:32 -0600
>From: Burt Maass <burtthemime(at)geocities.com>
>Subject: release the hounds...
>
>Hi All,
> I've done a redesign of http://home.att.net/~kocoa/ and would like to
>get
>some feedback about the look and feel of the site and any errors that
>I've
>overlooked.
>
> TIA [:-) Burt
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:36:01 -0500
>From: Brian Clark <brianj(at)ais.ais-gwd.com>
>Subject: Re: release the hounds...
>
>Burt Maass said:
>
># Hi All,
># I've done a redesign of http://home.att.net/~kocoa/ and would like
>to get
># some feedback about the look and feel of the site and any errors
>that I've
># overlooked.
>#
># TIA [:-) Burt
>- ----
>
>Hi Burt:
>
>IE4, 49k, 1024x768 (viewed at 640*, 800*, 1024*)
>
>Validation issues:
>http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.att.net%2F%7Ekocoa%2F
>
>First of all, hi people, it's been a while, and I'm glad to be back on
>the
>list (sort of back). :)
>
>The site looks pretty good, Burt. All in all, the color is great and
>the
>images are crisp, fast-loading and great looking. Navigation was easy
>enough and pretty straightforward (keep that policy when building
>sites!).
>Other than that, IMO I would add in a dash of texture as not to make
>it too
>plain (I'm guilty of this too). I don't mean multicolored textured
>backgrounds, as I'm sure you have better taste than that judging by
>the
>work I see here.
>
>I don't have a whole heck of a lot of time here, but I need to suggest
>that
>you take a look at the URL that I posted up top. You have some pretty
>hairy
>issues that you need to work out; namely, the site's appearance at
>640x480.
>At 800 to 1024+ the site is fine. Other than the problems with the
>text and
>images at 640x480, GREAT use of whitespace - which is something that
>some
>designers don't even consider. No one needs to pack a page from edge
>to
>edge. Good job.
>
>I didn't check all of the pages in the frameset, but I'd imagine they
>are
>in the same shape, so I stopped the validation at that page.
>
>Stupid little suggestions:
>
>* Always provide a way of getting back to the very first page a
>visitor
>sees (home)
>
>* A contact form is a great thing to provide on commercial sites (not
>always an option). People are more likely to respond, rather than
>having to
>open an email program to send feedback.
>
>* I would place some form of contact/address/phone somewhere on each
>page
>(preferably in the same place on each page; maybe at the bottom) as
>some
>people like to print specific pages. (frames is another issue, but I'm
>going to get into that).
>
>I guess that is about all I have time to offer :)
>
>Overall, very simple and nice looking site, Burt. I hope my
>suggestions help -
>
>Brian
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:33:17 PST
>From: "Susan Daniels" <susandaniels(at)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: release the hounds...
>
>> I've done a redesign of http://home.att.net/~kocoa/ and would like
>
>Burt,
>
>First of all, it took almost a minute at my connection of almost 50K.
>However, I like the look of the site. The font is nice, colors are
>great. Nice mouseovers and easy-to-follow navigation. And the photos
>are
>really nice color-wise--very bright on my screen!
>
>A couple of points, though:
>1. The "Kocoa's Kitchen, Inc" graphic at the top needs a couple of
>pixels of purple between the bottom edge of the comma, and the white
>frame. Currently they run together.
>
>2. the counter-- the first thing a counter makes me think is
>"amateurish". No one needs to know how many hits you're
>getting--except
>you and your customer. Use stats that the viewer doesn't see.
>
>3. WGN graphic needs height and width tags.
>
>4. AFTRA graphic-- I don't think the animation adds anything, except
>distraction.
>
>So that's it! You've done a good job.
>
>IE4.0, Win95, 1024x768, 32bit color
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:01:56 -0600
>From: "The Lion's Cub" <lionscub(at)elknet.net>
>Subject: Request for Critique (High School Alumni Site)
>
>Ok here is the major revision, I am still working on a way to bypass
>the
>geopop menus, without damaging my format, but other then that I am
>open to
>critique.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/4618/
>
>Thanks in advance for your help...
>
>- -----------------------
>Charles Nance (AKA Lion's Cub)
>ICQ: 19475445
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:58:46 -0800 (PST)
>From: Luke Opperman <luko(at)rocketmail.com>
>Subject: Phillips Group, brand new attempt.
>
>Hi all-
>
>http://landru.myhome.net/opperman/visual/phillipsgroup/new2/base.html
>
>Just the one page, the client prefers this design greatly
>over the other one (same address, but new1/base.html). So,
>I would appreciate any thoughts on making it even better.
>
>Luke
>
>===
>
> - ( luke opperman ) -
> Spigot Graphics, Cohesive Design for the Web
> - ( http://spigot.hypermart.net/ ) -
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>
>
>
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:16:33 -0700
>From: Rachelle Drouin <wade.martineau(at)telusplanet.net>
>Subject: Critique of [Spanish] Site II
>
>http://members.xoom.com/Frida_Kahlo/
>
> The Spanish version of this site is just about done. (The English
>version is coming!) *smile*
>
>However, although the pages validated before, they don't now. The
>validator is being tripped up over things as simple as <LI> and <P>
>tags. Yeesh! <grumble>
>
>If anyone can provide some meaningful insight as to why, this would be
>very helpful.
>
>In addition, since the last time I asked that this site be critiqued,
>I've added small thumbnail .gifs to the side bar at the left. I've
>defined the height of my table cells in pixels, relative to Times or
>Times New Roman font, to anchor these gifs to the beginnings of the
>paragraphs in which they are discussed. If you could tell me whether
>the tables are rendered correctly on different platforms and at
>different resolutions, (i.e. the layout I intended isn't completely
>messed up!), I'd really appreciate it.
>
>Thanks.
>Rachelle Drouin
>
>- --
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:21:34 -0800
>From: "Eric Nisenfeld" <eric(at)chichi.demon.nl>
>Subject: Personal Site Review Requested.
>
>Hi All,
>
>My I invite you to review our (Deb, Eric and ChiChi) personal web site
>found
>at http://www.chichi.demon.nl.
>
>As with everything in life this site is not a finished work, but is
>frequently updated.
>
>I would very much like to here you constructive comments.
>
>TIA Eric:)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:04:20 -0500
>From: Pat and Steve <escalate(at)ne.infi.net>
>Subject: Updated website; please critique
>
>http://www.doginfomat.com/chats/
>I have updated one of my web sites which is non personal; yet non
>commercial as well. It is basically a growing list of dog chats and
>how
>to access them.
>My one and only goal for this site is to provide information on how to
>find the particular dog chat the person is interested in and how to
>get
>to the chat if they do not know how.
>This is basically aimed at people new to the internet who may not know
>how to use search engines, etc. (It comes up as a reviewed, best of,
>or
>directory site so it is fairly easy to find).
>I am happy to announce that with imput from this wonderful group; best
>viewed with sun glasses and lead suits is no longer something that
>will
>be necessary to suggest :)
>Please let me know if you think this is an easily understandable site
>for someone new to the internet.
>http://www.doginfomat.com/chats/
>Pat
>- --
>Dog Chats http://www.doginfomat.com/chats/index.htm
>Honda Dealer http://www.thebluegrasspages.com
>CUR#279
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:38:45 -0800
>From: Kathleen Fetner <pandason(at)best.com>
>Subject: Re: Phillips Group, brand new attempt.
>
>Hi Luke,
>I like this one better too. It has a more cohesive look and the
>roughness of the logo is not as apparent this way either. I did like
>the
>stripes though. Don't think they'll go for it on this format? Maybe a
>narrow black border around the white box?
>
>Kathleen Fetner
>http://www.webniche.com
>
>Luke Opperman wrote:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>>
>http://landru.myhome.net/opperman/visual/phillipsgroup/new2/base.html
>>
>> Just the one page, the client prefers this design greatly
>> over the other one (same address, but new1/base.html). So,
>> I would appreciate any thoughts on making it even better.
>>
>> Luke
>
>..snip..
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:35:32 EST
>From: Shelgas(at)aol.com
>Subject: Please critique first frames
>
>Hello all,
>
>This is my first relatively successful attempt at using frames. It is
>also my
>first relatively successful attempt at mousovers. I know it has some
>glitches
>but I don't know how to fix them. I tested on Netscape4 and IE4 using
>windows95.
>
>This is just a test page I put together. Any advice is sooo very much
>apreciated. But..please..be gentle.
>
>http://members.aol.com/shelgas2/frames/pearls.html
>
>Thank you,
>Shelly
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:16:51 -0500
>From: walter muller <waltermullerorlando(at)worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: Please critique first frames
>
>the text color you used for the navigation buttons should be changed
>it is hard
>to read against your background
>ns 4.06 800x600 48000 pc
>Hope I was gentle enough ; )
>
>
>> This is just a test page I put together. Any advice is sooo very
>much
>> apreciated. But..please..be gentle.
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/shelgas2/frames/pearls.html
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Shelly
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:40:14 -0800 (PST)
>From: rbrooks <crazybreadstick(at)yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Please critique first frames
>
>Well the best advice I can use is don't use frames unless it's 100%
>necessary, but I don't think that's what you wanna hear so here we
>go...
>
>- -only half of the picture in top right frame is visible.. it starts
>low,
>and is too high for the frame.
>- -same with the top left.
>- -did you do that stuff in 'my favorites'? i think so- but i
>honestly
>don't see how those can be so good but the site design be a cliche'.
>- -cut the borders and such down so you don't have any horizontal
>scroll
>bars
>- -good job with the email forms and no 'surprise' email links
>- -trying to be 'gentle', overall it's a boring design and poor layout
>but
>you look like you can offer some interesting art work to this site
>once
>you get your feet off the ground (judging by 'my favorites')- try to
>merge that tallent into the design also
>
>ie 4.o, 16bit color, blah blah
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:09:18 -0800
>From: mike <mike(at)vallejonet.net>
>Subject: a new domain
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I decided for VallejoNET I wanted a new domain just dedicated to our
>hosting services. Could you please review
><http://www.macwebhosting.com>
>and give me your input. This is the first site I'm running sorta as a
>test too on the new MacOS X server software.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>- -----------------
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:34:00 -0600
>From: Cynthia Barnes <editor(at)writestuffproductions.com>
>Subject: Re: a new domain
>
>Mike:
>
>I like the layout, but nowhere do you talk about where you're based.
>That's a big flag for a lot of people who want local hosting. Also, I
>expected the images on the left to be links which would give me more
>technical information about the servers.
>
>With ISPs coming and going so quickly, I think your copy should do a
>little more trust-building instead of just going for the sale. Who are
>you? How long have you been in business? Why should I host with you?
>That sort of thing.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Cyn
>- --
>
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>Columbia, Missouri USA
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:56:28 -0500
>From: C and P <enigma(at)netcom.ca>
>Subject: countdown9199.com????
>
>Hi
>
>This is OFF TOPIC.
>
>Did someone here (along time ago) post a critique for the shockwave
>content
>at countdown9199.com? If so, could this person please please email
>me?
>
>thanks
>phil.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:22:48 -0500
>From: lnl(at)l.nu
>Subject: Sleuth Needed
>
>List members...
>
>The page at
>http://resourcenet.hoho.org/cgi-bin/ottawa_coalition/admin/eventsa.pl?oaisd
>is an input form that functions fine on PCs, but some (all?) Macs,
>using
>Netscape (4.04, in one case) have a problem wherein they cannot
>maneuver
>from cell to cell with the tab key.
>Does anyone see a problem with the HTML as it is written by my script
>that
>would cause this?
>
>Many thanks,
>Chuck Lund
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:47:03 -0500
>From: "Leo Smith" <barter(at)ntplx.net>
>Subject: State Agency web site-Mouseover question
>
>Hi all...
>A State Agency wants to use mouseover on the index menu...
>see http://www.e-source.com/retire/active.html
>While the mouseove works in IE 4.0 and higher, and works in NeoPlanet,
> it
>doesn't work in NN.
>
>I'd appreciate any comment on the web page, particularly on a work
>around
>that will allow the mouseover to work in NN...
>Leo Smith
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:10:30 -0500
>From: Don Befort <dbefort(at)dc.jones.com>
>Subject: Critique please
>
>Hi All,
>
> This is my first business site so please fire away.
>
>Don Befort
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:11:50 EST
>From: CheerN4THS(at)aol.com
>Subject: Re: Critique please
>
>In a message dated 3/26/99 8:09:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>dbefort(at)dc.jones.com
>writes:
>
><< Hi All,
>
> This is my first business site so please fire away.
>
> Don Befort
> >>
>
>Where is the link
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:07:53 -0500
>From: Don Befort <dbefort(at)dc.jones.com>
>Subject: Critique please
>
>Hi All,
>
> This is my first business site so please fire away.
>http://dc.jones.com/~lbefort/zoomdata/index.html
>
>Don Befort
>
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