Disturbing e-mail

by tcspain(at)unccvm.uncc.edu (TANYA SPAIN)

 Date:  Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:18:50 -0500
 To:  hwg-elections(at)hwg.org,
David_Humphreys(at)amat.com
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David,

I don't recall making any personal attacks directed toward you or any other
candidate. I am sad to see that you took offense to any of my comments, as
that was not my intention whatsoever.

It is also saddening to see that you have quit the Guild because of your
experiences in this election process. This is an election. Every eligible
member is entitled to choose whomever they see fit. I am committed to the
Guild, whether or not I am elected to GB.

I do not, however, understand your comment about me, the president and his
family. ??? I'm going to disregard.

Tanya


>Hello Tanya,
>
>Politicians are so insecure.  That's why I'm not one.  I don't play games
>and will not serve if elected.  There was no requirement to submit any
>specific details about one's candidacy, only an opportunity.  But people
>like
>you always try to make others look bad so you can look better. Go ahead,
>I don't care.  I just thinks it's HILARIOUS that I have 55 votes to your
>zip.  And I'm
>not even a member of the guild HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  It was fun watching
>all your little egos puffing up with importance; ever thought of enticing
>the Pres
>away from his family?  You'd make a good couple!  But I goota go now; it's
>becoming boring.  I forgot to withdraw and I got more votes than you.
>David
>Ex-candidate
>Ex-HWG member
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>To:   eva @ algonet.se, hwg-elections @ hwg.org, bart @ bgrafyx.com, kt96 @
>      bcs.org.uk, rtuttle @ cet.com, ed @ clarkston.com, johnny @
>      opus.autoroute.net
>cc:    (bcc: David Humphreys/APPLIED MATERIALS)
>Subject:  Re: Q to Peter, Richard, Ed, Johnny, Tanya
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>Eva and fellow Guild Members,
>May I begin by suggesting that you only consider the following names in
>this election, as they are the _only_ candidates who took this election
>seriously enough to submit a profile:
>Frederick J. Barnett      91
>Harold A. Driscoll     1788
>Demitrius Lopez           142
>Peter Knaggs                2
>Gerald Oskoboiny      416
>Tanya Spain                  0
>The following candidates have _no profile_ on-line!! That concerns me, as
>there was ample time to compose and submit profiles and the deadline was
>made clear in the nomination letter!
>Tarik Dozier               360
>Jimmie McWhirt         258
>David Humphreys         55
>Susan Duncan             46
>Richard Tuttle                2
>Ed Pastelak                  0
>Johnny Mo                    0
>Eva, I am also concerned with this statement:
>>I'd also like to stress your (except for Peter) failure in submitting
>>Candidate Presentation making you total strangers to me.
>Please tell me more about my failure to make a Candidate Presentation? I am
>truly not aware of this missed opportunity. I would definitely appreciate
>the chance to introduce myself further to the group. Can you provide me
>with more information?
>Now to get to the heart of your message: What do I have to offer?
>I want to thank you for being a conscientious member and questioning what
>I, and all of the candidates, have to offer. That means a lot to me, even
>though I am on the hot seat!
>Let me direct you, first, to my profile submitted to the Guild, briefly
>covering my Vision and Qualifications:
>http://www.hwg.org/election1998/spain.html
>Second, I, like every listed member of the Guild, have a lot to offer the
>Guild! As you are aware, the strength of this Guild, and any Guild, is in
>its membership. Each name in the Guild's membership signifies not just a
>name, but an individual - an individual who is concerned about the web, its
>issues and its development. Each individual in this Guild has, in my
>opinion, increased the Guild's impact simply by signing up! Each
>individual's membership indicates a vote of confidence in the Guild and its
>mission, a commitment to the goals of the Guild and, most importantly,
>support for this type of community!
>Third, my candidacy should illustrate to you that I am making a serious
>effort to get involved in the Guild, beyond reading the web pages and posts
>to the listserves. By running as a candidate for the Governing Board, I am
>choosing to offer my involvement, ideas, time and resources to help the
>Guild in its mission at the core level. By running as a candidate for the
>Governing Board, I am offering my skills to each member, in a way I feel I
>can contribute most. Elected or not, I am making an effort to be an
>involved Guild member and hope to continue my contacts with you and other
>members, new and old, as I maintain my membership and contributions!
>Agreeably, participation in the listserve discussions is a factor worth
>considering when faced with electing a member of the Guild's Governing
>Board. I appreciate that you have stressed how important listserv
>participation is to you. I will intentionally make an effort to improve my
>listserve communications, whether or not I am elected!
>Listserve participation cannot alone judge the willingness, integrity and
>value of a member and that member's contribution potential. Please see my
>side, as a member, not a candidate. There are so many ways for
>participating and communicating as a Guild member. These options should be
>explored, as I am a prime example of how listserves aren't effective for
>all members. I believe they are very important and serve a tremendous need,
>however, I think other methods of communication should be explored. I don't
>think I am alone in saying that listserves don't "reach" everyone. As a
>Guild member and as a part of the Governing Board,  I can contribute to
>developing and maintaining other forms of sharing and communication,
>including, but not at all limited to, on-line training, which I do
>professionally for the University of North Carolina at Charlotte.
>Listserve participation cannot be the sole determining factor in a member's
>worth. When faced with choosing from the many candidates, do you consider
>professional experience, knowledge of many facets of web issues, the
>ability to contribute in several areas, the willingness to contribute time
>and skills without pay, the desire to become involved in a deeper sense
>than listserves? I think these are all VERY important factors which I can
>contribute.
>As a member of the Guild, I offer all of the above and my committment,
>knowledge, professional experience, professional expertise and my passion
>for learning, teaching and sharing. Put me to the test!  Let me show you
>the many ways there are to be an contributing member of our Guild, ways
>which reach beyond listserve participation.
>If you have read this far, thank you for your time and consideration.
>Sincerely,
>Tanya Spain
>
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>>For me the Guild is a place where members help one another by sharing
>>information therefore I measure each member's involvement with the
>>organization by their participation in the HWG mailing lists. The
>statistics
>>below show your postings to the HWG lists. Data was retrieved from the HWG
>>archives last Friday and also includes all postings to -ops - which, at
>>least for me, are not all that relevant.
>>
>>Some of you never or almost never contributed to the mailing lists and
>since
>>you are not credited on the volunteers list I am also assuming you haven't
>>contributed to the Guild behind the screens either.
>>
>>My question is: What do you Peter, Richard, Ed, Johnny and Tanya have to
>>offer? I'd also like to stress your (except for Peter) failure in
>submitting
>>Candidate Presentation making you total strangers to me.
>>
>>Taking the above into consideration I cannot possibly take your
>candidatures
>>seriously. Why should I vote for you?
>>
>>Harold A. Driscoll     1788
>>Gerald Oskoboiny      416
>>Tarik Dozier               360
>>Jimmie McWhirt         258
>>Demitrius                   142
>>Frederick J. Barnett      91
>>David Humphreys         55
>>Susan Duncan             46
>>Peter Knaggs                2
>>Richard Tuttle                2
>>Ed Pastelak                  0
>>Johnny Mo                    0
>>Tanya Spain                  0
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