Re: difference between computers?

by "Rob King" <kilroy(at)radiks.net>

 Date:  Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:22:35 -0500
 To:  <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
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Another thing you need to remember when designing a site is what =
platform it will be viewed with...
this was taken from one of our sites that gets almost a million hits a =
month...   that gives us a pretty good view of what people are using...  =
 this is for a entertainment site, the mac scores only a little higher =
for a educational site...

1 Windows 95                    63.79%                =20
2  Others                             12.75%                =20
3 Windows NT                   11.87%                  =20
4 Windows 98                      3.24%                    =20
5 Windows 3.x                      2.72%                  =20
6 Windows Win32s             1.56%                   =20
7 Macintosh                          1.41%                  =20
8 Macintosh PowerPC        1.24%                  =20
9 OS/2                                    0.6%                  =20
10 SunOS                              0.24%                    =20

The catagory of others is webtv, opera, and some of the other browsers =
that dont send the os in the req. statment.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Cresswells <pam(at)cresswells.com>
    To: Hwg-Graphics (E-mail) <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
    Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:31 PM
    Subject: difference between computers?
   =20
   =20
   =20
    Hi,
    I occasionally work with an other person on web pages,
    She does the HTML, and I do the graphics. We are having trouble
    in that what I see on my screen is not what she sees.=20
    She mainly works with a lap top computer. Recently, she viewed
    the work I had sent her on another PC (an aptiva) , and realized
    that it look considerably better than on her laptop. =20
    Here is my problem. My co-hort thinks we should design for the
    majority of viewers (and I agree), but that most folks would have
    similar viewing as her machine, and that my machine is fancier
    than the average user (and I disagree, I think my PC is just a =
normal PC).=20
    How do most html designers design for various users? The more
    I re-do to look good on the lap top, the less wonderful the graphics =
look
    to me <g> . All the subtle aspects have to be taken out.=20
    I want my work to look good to everyone, but is that possible?
    I have been working 800 x 600 with 16 bit color,on a Pentium PC,=20
    as that is comfortable viewing for me.=20
    if you want to look, the below URLs will take you to the work in =
progress.
    Comments welcome, as long as they are not too cruel <g>
    Pam C
   =20
   =20
    http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm
    http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm
    http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm
    http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm
    =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Another thing you need to remember when designing a =
site is=20
what platform it will be viewed with...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>this was taken from one of our sites that gets =
almost a=20
million hits a month...&nbsp;&nbsp; that gives us a pretty good view of =
what=20
people are using...&nbsp;&nbsp; this is for a entertainment site, the =
mac scores=20
only a little higher for a educational site...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1 Windows=20
95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
63.79%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>2&nbsp;=20
Others&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
12.75%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>3 Windows=20
NT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
11.87%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>4 Windows=20
98&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
3.24%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>5 Windows=20
3.x&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
2.72%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>6 Windows=20
Win32s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
1.56%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>7=20
Macintosh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1.41%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>8 Macintosh PowerPC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1.24%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>9=20
OS/2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0.6%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>10=20
SunOS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0.24%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The catagory of others is webtv, opera, and some of =
the other=20
browsers that dont send the os in the req. statment.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Cresswells &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:pam(at)cresswells.com">pam(at)cresswells.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
    </B>Hwg-Graphics (E-mail) &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org">hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org</A>&gt;<BR><B>D=
ate:=20
    </B>Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:31 PM<BR><B>Subject: =
</B>difference=20
    between computers?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
    size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I =
occasionally work=20
    with an other person on web pages,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>She does =
the HTML, and=20
    I do the graphics. We are having trouble</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>in that =
what I see on=20
    my screen is not what she sees. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
    size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>She =
mainly works=20
    with a lap top computer. Recently, she viewed</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20
    face=3DBangkok size=3D2>the work I had sent her on another PC (an =
aptiva) , and=20
    realized</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20
    face=3DBangkok size=3D2>that it look considerably better than on her =

    laptop.&nbsp; </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>Here is my problem. My =
co-hort thinks=20
    we should design for the</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>majority of viewers (and =
I agree),=20
    but that most folks would have</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>similar viewing as her =
machine, and=20
    that my machine is fancier</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>than the average user =
(and I=20
    disagree, I think my PC is just a normal PC). </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>How do most html =
designers design for=20
    various users? The more</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I re-do to look good on =
the lap top,=20
    the less wonderful the graphics look</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>to me &lt;g&gt; . All the =
subtle=20
    aspects have to be taken out. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I want my work to look =
good to=20
    everyone, but is that possible?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I have =
been working 800=20
    x 600 with </FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DBangkok=20
    size=3D2>16 bit color,on a Pentium PC,</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>as that =
is comfortable=20
    viewing for me. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>if you=20
    want to look, the below URLs will take you to the work in =
progress.</DIV>
    <DIV>Comments welcome, as long as they are not too cruel =
&lt;g&gt;</DIV>
    <DIV>Pam C</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm">http://cre=
sswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm</A></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm">http://cr=
esswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm</A></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm">http://cres=
swells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm</A></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm">http://cres=
swells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm</A></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
    =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></STRONG></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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