Re: CorelDRAW 8

by "robemell" <robemell(at)iaw.com>

 Date:  Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:58:42 -0500
 To:  "Ramon Bartschat" <bartschat(at)goldnet.sk>,
<hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org>
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Hi Raymond.  Have to agree. I have Photoshop, Director, Premier, Flash, =
Fireworks.  All Adobe products.  I too am a non manual experimental =
type.  I revert to the manual if I am stumped but, for the most part I =
am a graphical person and learn by doing.  Adobe without a doubt has =
created one of the most confusing systems to use.  Try figuring out the =
tutorials for flash or some of the other programs.  My tool of Choice is =
Corel and in particular Corel Photopaint!  I've been using this as my =
main source of Web Production graphics application for years.  Why?  =
Because, for a high end product it's learning curve is more friendly =
than some and because it's standard, stock equipment like filters and =
effects is endless.  You don't have to add plugins because you can do =
almost anything you can think of with what comes stock with the program. =
 On top of that , the compression is increible.  This program is a joy =
and my right hand lierally!  Once you experiment and play around you can =
create effects in a snap within this one program without having to get =
extra plugins or bounce off to another application.  It's options rich =
and to this day I have still not explored all the posibilities :-)  The =
possibilites never end!

If you want some help or ideas for your book, give me a shout.  I've =
been using the program for since version 3, many years now.  I'd be =
happy to provide some input!

Rob Mellor
Millenium Studios
http://www.milleniumstudios.com
http://www.fallscasino.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ramon Bartschat <bartschat(at)goldnet.sk>
    To: hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org <hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org>
    Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:47 AM
    Subject: Re: CorelDRAW 8
   =20
   =20
    Greetings all.
   =20
    I am a true Corel Believer too.
    I tried Adobe Products but could not figure out the interface.=20
    This is rather strange since I am the type of computer "expert" =
which will learn on the fly how to use almost any software (with the =
possible exeption of german software). Just put me in front of a =
computer with a new software (without a manual) and in a couple of hours =
or days I am rocking.
    As said I was nevertheless unable to use Adobe Photoshop or Adobe =
Imageready. The interface was just "to strage" to me (?!).  I guess it =
is a question of getting used to it.
    (I am sure Photoshop is also an excellent program)
   =20
    When I first used Corel Photopaint 7 I could almost immediately =
create quiet average looking graphics. Now I have a solid background on =
creating optimized web graphics on Photopaint 8 and it is a pleasure to =
work with it.
   =20
    When I read tutorials on Photoshop I often can not help myself but =
think "What the hell.... " Why on earth is it so complicated to do a =
certain effect in Photoshop?
    For example I read a tutorial on how to create the X-Files green =
halo effect. It was a quite extensive tutorial. In Photopaint I am able =
to do it in just ONE (1) step.
    =20
    Or the tutorial on the image map that was posted on this list a =
little while ago. It looked so twisted and complicated. Believe me in =
Photopaint it is WAY easier to create imagemaps if I compare it with =
that tutorial. ;-)
    =20
    I am planning to write a book (most probably on CD-ROM) about =
creating special effects on Corel Photopaint 8. Should anyone consider a =
specific graphic topic or effect worthwhile to write about just let me =
know, maybe I'll write about it.
    =20
    ;-)
    =20
    Ramon Bartschat
   =20
   =20
    =20
    >I've been using CorelDRAW since version 4.
    >When PhotoShop 4 came out, I fell in love with it.
    >I keptCorelDRAW for vectors, but I PS was my
    >main program.  When CorelDRAW 7 came out,
    >I became a believer.  It was such a quantum
    >leap.  CorelDRAW 8 jumped ahead of itself
    >just as much as 7 did ahead of PS4.  PS5 doesn't
    >even compare to 7, and 8 just rips 'em all.
    >
    >I've used a ton of programs.  I see a feature in one
    >program and think, "Ah, you can't do that in CorelDRAW",
    >but after a little research, it turns out that CorelDRAW
    >does do it, and it does it easier and better.
    >
    >When I say CorelDRAW, I mean the package.
    >I work primarily out of PhotoPaint now, as I have
    >found that it does everything better than any other
    >program can.  The built-in filters are usually better
    >and have far more options than any plug-in.
    >
    >How about OCR-Trace?  Ever tried converting
    >a raster to a vector using OCR-Trace?  It's AMAZING!
    >I recently designed some playing cards for a casino
    >video game.  The 3D guy claimed to need a vector image
    >of each to have perfect maps in his 3D animation.
    >
    >I worked on the things in PhotoPaint, and created vectors
    >from them.  He sized the vectors and converted them back
    >to rasters.  He was shocked to see that there was no
    >pixelation even after zooming in at 2000%.
    >
    >Every time someone says, "You can't do this in PhotoPaint",
    >they turn out to be wrong.  Unless, ofcourse, they say, "You
    >can't build a bicycle in PhotoPaint", because that's true.
    >You can't build a bicycle in PhotoPaint... not in the traditional
    >sense, anyway.
    >
    >I also use a Corel keychain that reads "Go further".
    >
    >-Steve
    >=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Raymond.&nbsp; Have to agree. I =
have=20
Photoshop, Director, Premier, Flash, Fireworks.&nbsp; All Adobe =
products.&nbsp;=20
I too am a non manual experimental type.&nbsp; I revert to the manual if =
I am=20
stumped but, for the most part I am a graphical person and learn by =
doing.&nbsp;=20
Adobe without a doubt has created one of the most confusing systems to=20
use.&nbsp; Try figuring out the tutorials for flash or some of the other =

programs.&nbsp; My tool of Choice is Corel and in particular Corel=20
Photopaint!&nbsp; I've been using this as my main source of Web =
Production=20
graphics application for years.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because, for a high end =
product=20
it's learning curve is more friendly than some and because it's =
standard, stock=20
equipment like filters and effects is endless.&nbsp; You don't have to =
add=20
plugins because you can do almost anything you can think of with what =
comes=20
stock with the program.&nbsp; On top of that , the compression is=20
increible.&nbsp; This program is a joy and my right hand lierally!&nbsp; =
Once=20
you experiment and play around you can create effects in a snap within =
this one=20
program without having to get extra plugins or bounce off to another=20
application.&nbsp; It's options rich and to this day I have still not =
explored=20
all the posibilities :-)&nbsp; The possibilites never end!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you want some help or ideas for your book, give =
me a=20
shout.&nbsp; I've been using the program for since version 3, many years =

now.&nbsp; I'd be happy to provide some input!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Rob Mellor<BR>Millenium =
Studios<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.milleniumstudios.com">http://www.milleniumstudios.com<=
/A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.fallscasino.com">http://www.fallscasino.com</A><BR></F=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Ramon Bartschat &lt;<A=20
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o:=20
    </B><A =
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    &lt;<A=20
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    </B>Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:47 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
CorelDRAW=20
    8<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>Greetings all.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I am a true Corel Believer too.</DIV>
    <DIV>I tried Adobe Products but could not figure out the interface. =
</DIV>
    <DIV>This is rather strange since I am the type of computer=20
    &quot;expert&quot; which will learn on the fly how to use almost any =

    software (with the possible exeption of german software). Just put =
me in=20
    front of a computer with a new software (without a manual) and in a =
couple=20
    of hours or days I am rocking.</DIV>
    <DIV>As said I was nevertheless unable to use Adobe Photoshop or =
Adobe=20
    Imageready. The interface was just &quot;to strage&quot; to me =
(?!).&nbsp; I=20
    guess it is a question of getting used to it.</DIV>
    <DIV>(I am sure Photoshop is also an excellent program)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>When I first used Corel Photopaint 7 I could almost immediately =
create=20
    quiet average looking graphics. Now I have a solid background on =
creating=20
    optimized web graphics on Photopaint 8 and it is a pleasure to work =
with=20
    it.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>When I read tutorials on Photoshop I often can not help myself =
but=20
    think &quot;What the hell.... &quot; Why on earth is it so =
complicated to do=20
    a certain effect in Photoshop?</DIV>
    <DIV>For example I read a tutorial on how to create the X-Files =
green halo=20
    effect. It was a quite extensive tutorial. In Photopaint I am able =
to do it=20
    in just ONE (1) step.</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3>Or the tutorial on the image =
map that was=20
    posted on this list a little while ago. It looked so twisted and=20
    complicated. Believe me in Photopaint it is WAY easier to create =
imagemaps=20
    if I compare it with that tutorial. ;-)</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
    size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
    size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3>I am planning to write a book =
(most=20
    probably on CD-ROM) about creating special effects on Corel =
Photopaint 8.=20
    Should anyone consider a specific graphic topic or effect worthwhile =
to=20
    write about just let me know, maybe I'll write about =
it.</FONT></FONT><FONT=20
    size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
    size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D3>;-)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Ramon Bartschat</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT=20
    size=3D3><BR></FONT><BR>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>&gt;I've been using =
CorelDRAW since=20
    version 4.<BR>&gt;When PhotoShop 4 came out, I fell in love with=20
    it.<BR>&gt;I keptCorelDRAW for vectors, but I PS was my<BR>&gt;main=20
    program.&nbsp; When CorelDRAW 7 came out,<BR>&gt;I became a =
believer.&nbsp;=20
    It was such a quantum<BR>&gt;leap.&nbsp; CorelDRAW 8 jumped ahead of =

    itself<BR>&gt;just as much as 7 did ahead of PS4.&nbsp; PS5=20
    doesn't<BR>&gt;even compare to 7, and 8 just rips 'em=20
    all.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I've used a ton of programs.&nbsp; I see a =
feature in=20
    one<BR>&gt;program and think, &quot;Ah, you can't do that in=20
    CorelDRAW&quot;,<BR>&gt;but after a little research, it turns out =
that=20
    CorelDRAW<BR>&gt;does do it, and it does it easier and=20
    better.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;When I say CorelDRAW, I mean the =
package.<BR>&gt;I=20
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does=20
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built-in=20
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    plug-in.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;How about OCR-Trace?&nbsp; Ever tried=20
    converting<BR>&gt;a raster to a vector using OCR-Trace?&nbsp; It's=20
    AMAZING!<BR>&gt;I recently designed some playing cards for a=20
    casino<BR>&gt;video game.&nbsp; The 3D guy claimed to need a vector=20
    image<BR>&gt;of each to have perfect maps in his 3D=20
    animation.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I worked on the things in PhotoPaint, and =
created=20
    vectors<BR>&gt;from them.&nbsp; He sized the vectors and converted =
them=20
    back<BR>&gt;to rasters.&nbsp; He was shocked to see that there was=20
    no<BR>&gt;pixelation even after zooming in at =
2000%.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Every=20
    time someone says, &quot;You can't do this in =
PhotoPaint&quot;,<BR>&gt;they=20
    turn out to be wrong.&nbsp; Unless, ofcourse, they say,=20
    &quot;You<BR>&gt;can't build a bicycle in PhotoPaint&quot;, because =
that's=20
    true.<BR>&gt;You can't build a bicycle in PhotoPaint... not in the=20
    traditional<BR>&gt;sense, anyway.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I also use a Corel =
keychain=20
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