Re: difference between computers?

by "Rob King" <kilroy(at)radiks.net>

 Date:  Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:31:04 -0500
 To:  <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
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A Rock Station....

www.z92.com

listen live with real audio:)
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Kevin <duo.ditton(at)telinco.com>
    To: Rob King <kilroy(at)radiks.net>; hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org =
<hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
    Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 11:37 AM
    Subject: RE: difference between computers?
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    A million hits a month!!!!
    =20
    What site is it?? Dell??
    =20
    Kevin
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org =
[mailto:owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Rob King
        Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 2:23 PM
        To: hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org
        Subject: Re: difference between computers?
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        Another thing you need to remember when designing a site is what =
platform it will be viewed with...
        this was taken from one of our sites that gets almost a million =
hits a month...   that gives us a pretty good view of what people are =
using...   this is for a entertainment site, the mac scores only a =
little higher for a educational site...
       =20
        1 Windows 95                    63.79%                =20
        2  Others                             12.75%                =20
        3 Windows NT                   11.87%                  =20
        4 Windows 98                      3.24%                    =20
        5 Windows 3.x                      2.72%                  =20
        6 Windows Win32s             1.56%                   =20
        7 Macintosh                          1.41%                  =20
        8 Macintosh PowerPC        1.24%                  =20
        9 OS/2                                    0.6%                   =

        10 SunOS                              0.24%                    =20
        =20
        The catagory of others is webtv, opera, and some of the other =
browsers that dont send the os in the req. statment.
            -----Original Message-----
            From: Cresswells <pam(at)cresswells.com>
            To: Hwg-Graphics (E-mail) <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
            Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:31 PM
            Subject: difference between computers?
           =20
           =20
           =20
            Hi,
            I occasionally work with an other person on web pages,
            She does the HTML, and I do the graphics. We are having =
trouble
            in that what I see on my screen is not what she sees.=20
            She mainly works with a lap top computer. Recently, she =
viewed
            the work I had sent her on another PC (an aptiva) , and =
realized
            that it look considerably better than on her laptop. =20
            Here is my problem. My co-hort thinks we should design for =
the
            majority of viewers (and I agree), but that most folks would =
have
            similar viewing as her machine, and that my machine is =
fancier
            than the average user (and I disagree, I think my PC is just =
a normal PC).=20
            How do most html designers design for various users? The =
more
            I re-do to look good on the lap top, the less wonderful the =
graphics look
            to me <g> . All the subtle aspects have to be taken out.=20
            I want my work to look good to everyone, but is that =
possible?
            I have been working 800 x 600 with 16 bit color,on a Pentium =
PC,=20
            as that is comfortable viewing for me.=20
            if you want to look, the below URLs will take you to the =
work in progress.
            Comments welcome, as long as they are not too cruel <g>
            Pam C
           =20
           =20
            http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm
            http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm
            http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm
            http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm
            =20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>A Rock Station....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A =
href=3D"http://www.z92.com">www.z92.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>listen live with real =
audio:)</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Kevin &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:duo.ditton(at)telinco.com">duo.ditton(at)telinco.com</A>&gt;<BR>=
<B>To:=20
    </B>Rob King &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:kilroy(at)radiks.net">kilroy(at)radiks.net</A>&gt;; <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org">hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org</A> &lt;<A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org">hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org</A>&gt;<BR><B>D=
ate:=20
    </B>Thursday, October 08, 1998 11:37 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: =
difference=20
    between computers?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D790093616-08101998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    size=3D2>A million hits a month!!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D790093616-08101998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D790093616-08101998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    size=3D2>What site is it?? Dell??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D790093616-08101998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D790093616-08101998><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
    size=3D2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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        size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org">owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org</A>=
=20
        [mailto:owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Rob=20
        King<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08, 1998 2:23 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: difference between=20
        computers?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Another thing you need to remember when =
designing a=20
        site is what platform it will be viewed with...</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>this was taken from one of our sites that =
gets almost=20
        a million hits a month...&nbsp;&nbsp; that gives us a pretty =
good view=20
        of what people are using...&nbsp;&nbsp; this is for a =
entertainment=20
        site, the mac scores only a little higher for a educational=20
        site...</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1 Windows=20
        =
95&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
63.79%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>2&nbsp;=20
        =
Others&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
12.75%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>3 Windows=20
        =
NT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
11.87%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>4 Windows=20
        =
98&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
3.24%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>5 Windows=20
        =
3.x&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
2.72%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>6 Windows=20
        =
Win32s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
        =
1.56%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>7=20
        =
Macintosh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
1.41%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>8 Macintosh =
PowerPC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
1.24%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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        =
OS/2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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        =
SunOS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =
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        <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The catagory of others is webtv, opera, and =
some of=20
        the other browsers that dont send the os in the req.=20
        statment.</FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original=20
            Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Cresswells &lt;<A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:pam(at)cresswells.com">pam(at)cresswells.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
            </B>Hwg-Graphics (E-mail) &lt;<A=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org">hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org</A>&gt;<BR><B>D=
ate:=20
            </B>Wednesday, October 07, 1998 6:31 PM<BR><B>Subject:=20
            </B>difference between computers?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I =
occasionally=20
            work with an other person on web =
pages,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2>She does the=20
            HTML, and I do the graphics. We are having=20
            trouble</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2>in that what I=20
            see on my screen is not what she sees. =
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2>She mainly=20
            works with a lap top computer. Recently, she=20
            viewed</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20
            face=3DBangkok size=3D2>the work I had sent her on another =
PC (an=20
            aptiva) , and realized</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20
            face=3DBangkok size=3D2>that it look considerably better =
than on her=20
            laptop.&nbsp; </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>Here is my =
problem. My=20
            co-hort thinks we should design for =
the</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>majority of =
viewers (and I=20
            agree), but that most folks would have</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>similar viewing =
as her=20
            machine, and that my machine is =
fancier</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>than the average =
user (and I=20
            disagree, I think my PC is just a normal PC). =
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>How do most html =
designers=20
            design for various users? The more</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I re-do to look =
good on the=20
            lap top, the less wonderful the graphics =
look</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>to me &lt;g&gt; . =
All the=20
            subtle aspects have to be taken out. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I want my work to =
look good=20
            to everyone, but is that possible?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBangkok size=3D2>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok size=3D2>I =
have been=20
            working 800 x 600 with </FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT =
color=3D#000000=20
            face=3DBangkok size=3D2>16 bit color,on a Pentium=20
            PC,</FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DBangkok size=3D2>=20
            </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2>as that is=20
            comfortable viewing for me. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2></FONT></STRONG>if you want to look, the below URLs =
will take=20
            you to the work in progress.</DIV>
            <DIV>Comments welcome, as long as they are not too cruel=20
            &lt;g&gt;</DIV>
            <DIV>Pam C</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
            =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm">http://cre=
sswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/masonic.htm</A></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
            =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm">http://cr=
esswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/roundtwo.htm</A></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><A=20
            =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm">http://cres=
swells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round3.htm</A></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok =
size=3D2><A=20
            =
href=3D"http://cresswells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm">http://cres=
swells.com/graphics/cust/mason/round4.htm</A></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
            <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DBangkok=20
            =
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