Re: CSS and XML for Dummies...

Hi,

What was your resource for learning XML and CSS?  Also to, would you
recommend learning them separately to understand how they work without each
other, or learning them as a pair, since you almost always read about them
together.  I have visited http://www.xml.com  and have noodled enough up in
there to wander off confused and talking to myself.  I have used CSS in
special cases when I wanted text to do a bit more than HTML could make it do
and didn't want to fool with graphics, but have never really delved into it
to much because of the problems with the browser support, but that seems to
be coming to end.  XML and CSS seem to be the replacement for HTML, they
call it XSL(?), and ppl talk about it as the holy grail of Internet
Solutions.  So to get back to my original question, how do you like XML and
what did you find was a good resource for learning it?  Books, sites etc?

Thanks much
Carol<~~~~Looking for the breadcrumbs she dropped to find her way back.

----- Original Message -----
From: Garbanga <webmaster(at)spelaean.com>
To: <hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:51 PM
Subject: CSS and XML for Dummies...


> > Well I guess I am fortunate and driven enough to be able to function as
> > both a graphic designer and programmer --- they both go hand-in-hand.
> > Its just strange to me that there are web designers who cant work with
> > code and only with graphics and vice-versa ---- o well.
>
> Yuck.  What a self-centered thing to write.  It appears to be
> so, anyway.  On top of that, I believe that that isn't what we're
> talking about.  Any of us on here who do web graphics can
> probably get around in HTML, and maybe DHMTL, Javascript,
> CSS, etc. with no problem.  It's pretty easy to gain fluency in
> HTML.  We're talking about script writing in languages such
> as Perl, C++, Visual Basic, etc..
>
> I'm awaiting further CSS and XML compatibility.  I'm already doing
> some sites that are completely controlled by CSS.  The compatibilty
> will catch up, I'm sure (hopefully Netscape will add more CSS
> support to their browser... {body a:hover} is not supported!).
> Linking to CSS documents REALLY speeds a site up.
>
> I've already been working with XML to a certain extent, and it's
> database "programming" a designer can live with.
>
> Good graphics and navigation are very important to a site.
> Knowledge of techniques for reducing file sizes and incorporating
> your graphics with very custom code are important a web
> designer.  I think that if someone excels as an artist, they
> might find it difficult to grasp database programming.  Programming
> and artistry are each on different sides of the brain.
>
> CSS and XML are fairly simple to grasp, and are nothing
> but beneficial for everyone.  This, fortunately, is the direction
> we're headed in.
>
> For now, we really just need better WYSIWYG online database
> management and e-commerce.  What's out now is pretty
> limited (especially for e-commerce).
>
> I like beef.
>
> -Steve
>
>

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