Re: image problem

by "Kehvan M. Zydhek" <kehvan(at)zydhek.net>

 Date:  Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:34:10 -0700
 To:  "Anthony McLin" <mclin(at)usc.edu>,
<hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>,
"Kimiko Drew" <macruimmon(at)earthlink.net>
 References:  usc dfyh
  todo: View Thread, Original
Jami,

I've been reading this thread with interest, and am stumped as to why you're
having so much problems. All I can come up with is that your monitor
adjustment is off quite a bit (how old is the monitor? They get darker with
age).

I've attached a screenshot of the image you posted to GeoCities, plus a
duplicate of it with a Gamma boost of 1.90. Here, you can CLEARLY see the
complaints people are making, and why.

I've also attached two of my screen calibration test graphics. They should
help you adjust your monitor's color balance and screen brightness/gamma.

Your original post said you were using PSP7... You can adjust screen levels
in that program by clicking on File/Preferences/Screen Gamma -- this may
help a bit, too, as it'll adjust the pictures you work on for better
editing.

Good luck,
Kehvan

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jami" <designsbydusty(at)tiadon.com>
To: "Anthony McLin" <mclin(at)usc.edu>; <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>; "Kimiko Drew"
<macruimmon(at)earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 15:16
Subject: Re: image problem


> No, I'm running at 32 bit color. I tried adjusting that, too. It's just
the
> one image that causes problems.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony McLin" <mclin(at)usc.edu>
> To: "Jami" <designsbydusty(at)tiadon.com>; <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>; "Kimiko
> Drew" <macruimmon(at)earthlink.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 5:17 PM
> Subject: RE: image problem
>
>
> > hmmm....based on that answer I suspect that you are running 16bit color
> > instead of 32bit color. Unfortuneately if your graphics card doesn't
> support
> > better than 16bit your only solution will be that trek.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > __________________________________________________
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org]On
> > Behalf Of Jami
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:58 AM
> > To: hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org; Kimiko Drew
> > Subject: Re: image problem
> >
> >
> > Hello......
> >
> > First of all, I want to thank everyone who took the time to answer my
> > question. I've tried to respond to several of them privately, but I'll
> send
> > this to the list to save having to re-type the same information again.
> >
> > I've come to the conclusion that this is a matter of my computer simply
> not
> > liking this one particular image. I have made every adjustment to both
my
> > monitor and the settings of my computer, to no avail. The hair comes out
> > completely black with no variation, and the skin tones come out very
> normal.
> > This happens on two different websites where the picture appears.
> >
> > When I pull the image into my Paint Shop Pro, I used the color dropper
to
> > grab the color from several different places on the hair, and each time
it
> > read black....Red 0, Blue 0, Green 0. I have had four different people
> alter
> > the image in the desired fashion and send it back to me, and still the
> same
> > result. Their image looks just the same as the original image.....at
least
> > as far as color goes. Again, I have made every adjustment I can think of
> to
> > my PSP.
> >
> > I have scoured the net for other pictures of women with dark auburn
hair,
> > and have been able to see the color clearly and pull it up with my PSP.
I
> > recently did a very complicated job which required a lot of very
detailed
> > color matching, and had no problems. I checked the color palette of the
> > image, and it is at the proper setting.
> >
> > So, the only thing that I am left to conclude, short of a 100-mile trip
to
> > the nearest computer repair shop, is that it is something with this one
> > image that conflicts with something in my computer. I've decided not to
> > worry about it unless the problem surfaces again.
> >
> > Again, thank you to everyone who offered advice,
> > Dusty
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kimiko Drew" <macruimmon(at)earthlink.net>
> > To: "Jami" <designsbydusty(at)tiadon.com>; <hwg-graphics(at)hwg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 10:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: image problem
> >
> >
> > > At 09:05 PM 7/14/01 -0500, Jami wrote:
> > > >However, the person I did the picture for swears that the hair is
more
> of
> > an
> > > >auburn shade and that the airbrushed hair looks black. For the life
of
> > me, I
> > > >can't see the difference. Could someone please look at this picture
and
> > tell
> > > >me what I'm doing wrong?
> > >
> > > Hi Dusty
> > >
> > > I agree with the others, her hair has more auburn in coloration. Its
> > > similar to my own. Looks black, but isn't. Check the monitor as they
all
> > > mentioned. My monitor at work I never use for photo work, as it is too
> > > dark, and won't get any better (cheap card and cheap monitor). But I
use
> > it
> > > for testing, as it is a "normal" monitor in comparison to my home one.
> > >
> > > Also, you wanted technique. Try the color picker and pick different
> points
> > > of her hair. Then use a fine airbrush point. Pick a slightly different
> > > color. Or for a different technique, try using the rubber stamper, if
> PSP
> > > has one. I use Photoshop so I am not sure about PSP. Again, be sure to
> not
> > > use just one section, but change off for a more varied look. The
> > > rubberstamping tool is a bit tricky to use, so practice a lot first,
or
> it
> > > will look as bad as cut and paste.
> > >
> > > Good luck and hth.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kimiko Drew
> > > macruimmon(at)earthlink.net
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~macruimmon/
> > > a web designer in The Camarilla
> > > White Wolf's Official Fan Club
> > >
> > > Nothing happens unless first a dream. - Carl Sandburg
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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