Fw: Project Gutenberg

> I was looking through the Project Gutenberg material after the HWG
e-mailing
> I got today.
> I do not have too much time to look through it now. I think the XML DTD's
> need to define the character sets that can be used, there seems to be no
> reference in them. I think ISO sets or Unicode should be used, and that OS
> specific sets such as Windows should not be used.

Thank you Terence, very good points!

> I noticed that some of the XHTML pages on the Gutenberg portion of the HWG
> site are using the Windows character set
>
> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" />
>
> and this might lead to problems with browsers not programmed with this
set.


I will indeed change the character sets.

FTR I used IE5's 'save as' feature to create a template for the pages, and
the b----er's changed the character set on me. i removed the rest of their
stuff but missed this one! I will change it in all the pages

> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
>
> Since most books in Project Gutenberg are in English, this character set
> would probably be the best. Maybe just add the entity references for the
> XHTML character sets to the HWG Gutenberg Book Fragment DTD and make those
> available to volunteers in the same place at the book DTDs or give the
> location to the W3C location for these entities.

Yes I agree with this.

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: Terence de giere <terence(at)humanfactors.com>
To: <frank(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: Project Gutenberg


> Dear Frank ---
>
> I was looking through the Project Gutenberg material after the HWG
e-mailing
> I got today.
> I do not have too much time to look through it now. I think the XML DTD's
> need to define the character sets that can be used, there seems to be no
> reference in them. I think ISO sets or Unicode should be used, and that OS
> specific sets such as Windows should not be used.
>
> I noticed that some of the XHTML pages on the Gutenberg portion of the HWG
> site are using the Windows character set
>
> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" />
>
> and this might lead to problems with browsers not programmed with this
set.
> In the past OS specific encoding would cause problems with display. The
home
> page of the W3C (which is now XHTML) uses the standard ISO set
>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
>
> Since most books in Project Gutenberg are in English, this character set
> would probably be the best. Maybe just add the entity references for the
> XHTML character sets to the HWG Gutenberg Book Fragment DTD and make those
> available to volunteers in the same place at the book DTDs or give the
> location to the W3C location for these entities.
>
> from the XHTML strict DTD:
>
> <!--================ Character mnemonic entities
> =========================-->
>
> <!ENTITY % HTMLlat1 PUBLIC
>    "-//W3C//ENTITIES Latin 1 for XHTML//EN"
>    "xhtml-lat1.ent">
> %HTMLlat1;
>
> <!ENTITY % HTMLsymbol PUBLIC
>    "-//W3C//ENTITIES Symbols for XHTML//EN"
>    "xhtml-symbol.ent">
> %HTMLsymbol;
>
> <!ENTITY % HTMLspecial PUBLIC
>    "-//W3C//ENTITIES Special for XHTML//EN"
>    "xhtml-special.ent">
> %HTMLspecial;
>
>
> location of character set entities at W3C
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml-lat1.ent
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml-symbol.ent
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml-special.ent
>
> These entities could be renamed internally as HWG-Gutenberg entities, but
> using the W3C entities unchanged would probably give weight and
persistence
> to the selection, as well as not having to reinvent them. As HTML
progressed
> the number of available characters in the these standard ISO sets
associated
> with HTML has increased. Not all the special characters display in the
> current browsers, but they will in future browsers so I think they should
be
> used since they are the most stable reference.
>
> Terence de Giere
> Human Factors International, Inc.
> E-mail (work) terence(at)humanfactors.com
> E-mail (home) tdegiere(at)kdsi.net
>

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