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Re: select lists

by "Steve Cost" <scost(at)neo.rr.com>

 Date:  Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:56:19 -0400
 To:  "Greg Rundlett" <greg(at)freephile.com>,
"eric williams" <eric_alt(at)hotmail.com>,
<hwg-languages(at)hwg.org>
 References:  hotmail rcbowen mediaone
  todo: View Thread, Original 
Very nice summation, Greg.  I would add that virtually all 'includes' you
address work also with .asp pages, which I use almost exclusively due to the
data-driven nature of my site.  Almost every ASP page in my site has in the
HTML header section these includes: DB connection open, adovbs, navigation
table cell, header table cell, and connection close. I started site design
with frames, but flaky/inconsistent operation drove me to a
"table-with-include modules" approach. Works well.
--
Steve C
www.ReadersOpinions.com
-As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are
not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer
to reality. - Einstein

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Rundlett <greg(at)freephile.com>
To: eric williams <eric_alt(at)hotmail.com>; <hwg-languages(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: select lists


| Three things (maybe more) come together to make a webpage: Content,
| Presentation and Functionality (aka Logic).
| The best way to program, and maintain or extend your sites/applications is
| to modularize these things as distinct entities that you can bring
together
| in the appropriate fashion when and as needed.  You have separate albeit
| similar methods for achieving this with each file type: HTML, CSS, and JS.
|
| For HTML, name all your content files .shtml.  Then you can use the file
| include directive to include another file's contents at the time the
user's
| request is served back (repsonse sent) to the client browser.
| The syntax is like this:
| <!--#include file="msgboard.txt"-->
| or,
| <!--#include virtual="msgboard.txt"-->
| Make sure you configure your server so that it will recognize the #include
| directives.   This is a step that often goes overlooked, because I believe
| it is turned on by default with Apache, but just as often, ISP's turn the
| feature off in your particular site.  Once your site webserver is
configured
| to look for file includes, and the file extension is .shtml, you can
include
| any file content into another document.  Note that the included file does
| not need to have it's own HTML <HEAD> and related tags if it's included in
| the <BODY> of another document.  In fact, the included file doesn't even
| have to be HTML, it could be just text.  Usually, the page is constructed
| with HTML that sets up the layout using tables and graphics etc., and then
| the "content" is included into a <TD> where the page is designed to hold
the
| main content.
| (see Rich Bowen's post for more info on #includes)
|
| For CSS, create a separate CSS file, and link to it in the <head>
| The syntax is like this:
| <LINK REL="STYLESHEET" TYPE="text/css" HREF="../../style/homepage.css">
| Once you do this, you can use any of the styles you've defined within your
| document (or sitewide if the <LINK> is in all your pages).  For example,
you
| might have defined a class in your .CSS file named "biz".  In your
document
| you simply apply the style: <div class="biz">&nbsp;</div>.  By linking to
| the style sheet, you can change the presentation of your page elements
with
| one swift edit to the .css file.
| (see blooberry.com http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/index.html, or
| webreference.com http://webreference.com/authoring/languages/html/css.html
| for more info)
|
| For JavaScript, create a separate JavaScript file (contains nothing but
| JavaScript), and link to it in the <HEAD>
| The syntax is like this:
| <SCRIPT TYPE="text/javascript" LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.2"
| SRC="../../js/nav.js">
| <!-- this is the include for the navigation javascript functions -->
| </SCRIPT>
| Once this is setup, you can use any of the variable, objects or functions
| that are defined in your .JS file.  That is because they are loaded into
the
| browsers memory space at the time the file is parsed and rendered on the
| client-side--just as if you had typed the whole thing in at the top of
your
| file.
| An example of including a function who's return value is defined in an
| external .JS file would then look like this:
| <script language=javascript>
| <!--
| ultimate_nav();
| file://-->
| </script>
| (see JavaScript.com for more info)
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Rich Bowen <rbowen(at)rcbowen.com>
| To: eric williams <eric_alt(at)hotmail.com>; <hwg-languages(at)hwg.org>
| Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:16 AM
| Subject: Re: select lists
|
|
| > eric williams wrote:
| > >
| > > Dumb question #32:
| > > The first part of every page is identical: CSS, JS and HTML, can I put
| them
| > > in a separate file to import like you do with CSS alone? I know I cant
| use
| > > #include, tried it before and netscape just ignored it. My pages are
all
| > > .shtml because of the perl counter #exe.
| >
| > With SSI (aka shtml) you can include another page with:
| > <!--#include virtual="/url/of/local/page" -->
| >
| > See http://apachetoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-06-12-001-01-PS,
| > http://apachetoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-06-19-002-01-NW-LF-SW,
| > and
| > http://apachetoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-06-26-001-01-NW-LF-SW
| > for a more detailed treatment of SSI.
| >
| > Rich
| > --
| > Rich(at)cre8tivegroup.com
| > Director of Web Application Development  -  The Creative Group
| >                                  http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/
| > Author - Apache Server Unleashed - http://apacheunleashed.com/
|
|

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