Re: Frames

1.  The address bar displays the URL of the frameset page, not the content
page.  This means that you can't easily:

    - Link to the page directly.
    - Pass the URL on to someone.
    - Bookmark the page.

2.  Related to the first point is the fact that your pages will, more than
likely, be indexed individually by search engines.  This means that your
page will open up with none of the main navigation.

3.  On the plus side, you can make the navigation stay on the screen at all
times.  On the down side, however, you can make the navigation stay on the
screen at all times.  This can cause big problems with small screens,
because the navigation cannot be moved out of the way, giving the whole
window to the main content.

Just a few thoughts,

Tim



----- Original Message -----
From: "Klaas De Waele" <klaas(at)gracegraphics.be>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:20 AM
Subject: Frames


> Hi there,
>
>
> I'm getting a bit down of all those people around here that hate frames.
If
> for once and for all you can express your thoughts WHY frames are bad (on
> itself, not just because some codewriter doesn't think about the features
> and demands and writes code that will eventually result in 'unexpected'
> frame behaviour) please do so now.  I've used frames in virtually every
site
> I ever made, never ran into problems.
>
> As far as I'm concerned:
>
> GOOD...
> - Easy (very) to have navigation
> - No problem having to scroll up to the navigation again after reading all
> the content
> - Nice to have multi-level navigation
> - Navigation changes?  Only one thing to change and upload.
>
> NOT SO GOOD...
> - You have to think before doing (oh no, that really puts me off ;) )
> - Some browsers don't support it*
> - Hard to make pixel-precise layouts that work across browsers
> - Reveal some specific problems with the respective browsers (Mozilla
e.g.)
>
> *I have my site put up with an intro page with frames and noframes
content.
> The noframes content even has some navigation and subpages without frames
as
> an introduction.  Guess what... last month in total had 3399 visits on
that
> first page... 0,29% had non-frames capable browsers.  Visitors came back
> generally 3 times a month.  If these non-frames capable boys only came
over
> once, it means of 1130 visits I miss 10 of them, 1,13%.  I won't be
changing
> a thing for them unhappy few, to be honest.
>
>
> - Kayjey -
> http://www.fiatcoupe.net
>

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