Rant: Netscape 6 - How could you betray me!!!

by "Paul Mennega" <paul(at)mennega.com>

 Date:  Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:10:00 -0500
 To:  "Rob Prentice" <RJP(at)clickdms.com>,
"Hwg-Techniques@Hwg. Org \(E-mail\)" <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
 References:  DMSSRV
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I too use ASP SSI's to organize my site.  It's just the fact that I now have
to program for *3* different platforms.  I have removed some of the
unneccesary tables, etc from my page, and it still looks good in every
browser, except NN 6.  My site is written in XHTML 1, and is 100% compliant.
My CSS has no errors, and my asp is tight.  Yet, when i load my site in NN6,
every once in a while, the images don't appear, but instead their alt tags
appear.  Then next reload, half images appear, half have incorrect spacing.
NN 6 is not even consistently bad in it's rendering.  I mean, my site is 3
warnings away from being strict xhtml, and displays exactly the same in
every browser (within reason), yet it looks 100% different in NN 6.  Sorry
to rant here people, it's just that I am very frustrated by this, and kinda
embarressed for the Netscape people for this bloated, useless, clunky
browser.  I am sure some of you are having no problems with the browser, but
it should not be a hit or miss proposition.  It should display standard
html/xhtml consistently well, like its much older predeccessor NN 4.*.

I really can't believe this is the official release.  What an embarresment.
I am seriously connsidering not even trying to fit my work into NN6 as I am
pretty sure that given it's current state of operation, most people will NOT
be using NN 6 for very long.  Either NN 6.1 will save this joke, or NN will
simply not be used by a large # of people.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Prentice" <RJP(at)clickdms.com>
To: "Hwg-Techniques@Hwg. Org (E-mail)" <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: Netscape 6 - How could you betray me!!!


> ive got netscape preview release3 on this computer. and ive looked at a
> large site that we're doign for a client and the table along the top is
> screwed. its important because it contains the navigation. lukily, im
> organised and everything is using ASPs version of Include. so i only
> need to modify 1 file for the while site. but, i need to work out why
> its messing things up.
> im not using a transparant image to space things or anything. all
> browser except for netscape6 seem to display it properly.
> the internet is becommign a mess. i can cope with designing for 2 main
> browsers that do things differently. but, netscape6 seems to be a
> rewritten crap version of netscape4. it looks good, but that isnt a
> substitute for the fact it doesnt work..... style over substance only
> goes so far.
>
> opera conforms to the w3c more tightly than IE and netscape4 and that
> displays everything as i intended it to look. IE is the next closest and
> netscape is the least accurate but its not messing anything up.
>
> and as for their 'we'll reply in 24 hour' technicle support........ ive
> been waiting for a week for an answer.
>
> take care,
>  Rob.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Mennega [mailto:paul(at)mennega.com]
> > Sent: 16 November 2000 05:08
> > To: hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> > Subject: Netscape 6 - How could you betray me!!!
> >
> >
> > Well, my homepage
> > http://www.mennega.com
> >
> > uses an 1px by 1px image for some spacing in a table (the
> > light colour on
> > the left navigation box.  Now, everything worked great in all
> > versions of
> > the browser, with my page as HTML 4.  I have just finished
> > converting the
> > page to XHTML 1, and loaded it in IE, great.  Opera,
> > smashing, NN 4.7 looks
> > good.....  NN 6 , AHHH!!
> >
> > This is rediculous.  As many of you know, XHTML requires all
> > tags to be
> > closed (including <img> tags, by using the slash at the end
> > of the tag).
> > Well it seems that NN6 has great difficulty with this / and
> > is displaying
> > all of my images incorrectly, while nn4.7 works great.
> > Anyone else having
> > spacing/position/annoying image issues with XHTML and NN 6?
> >
> > Any help is greatly appreciated, as my site looks like heck
> > in NN^, and I am
> > not switching back from XHTML (unless I have too, but I
> > really like it as a
> > standard)
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Paul
> >
> >
>

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