Re: Start with HTML or XHTML? (slightly OT)

by "Darrell King" <darrell(at)>

 Date:  Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:33:26 -0500
 To:  <hwg-techniques(at)>
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For us, it's not a matter of excluding or judging NN4 users, or AOL users,
or whatever.  It's just a matter of charging for the extra work.

We need to move to XHTML Strict.  We are spending hours every day learning
to do with CSS what we once did with HTML presentation.  NN4 doesn't
interpret our new work correctly, so additional work must be done if the
site is to be rendered properly in NN4.  That means more money.

Our own site at uses 2 different versions of roughly the
same design to handle this very issue.  Sniffing is done server-side with
PHP.  One set of pages is maintained with 2 different templates.

Is it overkill?  Should we have either a) written off older platforms, or b)
written off newer code?

We can't afford to do either, and so we find ways to walk both side for
awhile longer.

Will I be happy to see the end of it (if ever!)...?  Honestly, yes.  Despite
my strong support of freedom of choice and all, it's a royal pain to
accommodate everyone...:)


----- Original Message -----
From: <cbirds(at)>

Kehvan M. Zydhek hunted and pecked out this message on 3/13/2002 11:07 AM

>then you can possibly turn them away from the Dark Side (aka Netscape 4.x
>and WebTV).

This is ridiculous when Netscape 4.7.9 works best on many computers.
Even just 5% would be enough to be financial viable and it only takes a
few seconds to check it.
Just think, if you lose this guy ONE customer, you might be OUT as his
designer. :-)
A very bad position to take.
But that's OK because then people get complaints about their site, and
this means I get more remake work from them.

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