RE: CFM vs ASP

by Eric Frazier <ef(at)kwinternet.com>

 Date:  Mon, 13 May 2002 13:02:32 -0400
 To:  <kenneth.dombrowski(at)designmattersinc.com>
 Cc:  "Hwg-Techniques" <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
  todo: View Thread, Original
Hi,


 >I didn't want to mis-lead the original poster, my comment was just that
 >the environment and programmer are more important than the scripting
 >language.

Well said. But as in the case with the perl XM-RPC version 0.37, module I
have been using,  new doesn't mean unstable. At least not in that world
outside of MS.  The Berkely stuff is a lot older than InnoDB, but the
Berkely stuff makes me way nervous and I notice that mySQL is not as quick
to provide support for Berkely tables.

The mySQL people have always been pretty good about calling stable, what is
really worth calling stable, and the trans support is now considered that.
But would I choose mySQL over something else than had been doing trans for a
long time? Maybe, for example in a project I have been working on, I found
the lack of multi threading in Postgress was a real pain and memory hog with
larger numbers of users of heavy duty web apps. I didn't enjoy having 100
postgress processes going when I could have one big multi threaded mySQL
process, this on FreeBSD. The one big process was a lot more memory
efficent, and faster as is the case in general, which I guess is one big
reason why people are excited about Apache 2.

I started out using Postgres because I thought, god damn it, I want RF this
time. And so my comments from my last post apply to me as well :)

So anyway, I am starting to get used to the idea of mySQL being a "real"
database.

Eric


At 03:41 PM 5/13/02 -0400, Kenneth Dombrowski wrote:
 >
 >I heard transaction support was there, but new.
 >
 >FKs, I understand, have been there a long time as well, but afaik
 >they're still not enforced, which was my real gripe. I should disclaim
 >that as well with the statement that I haven't looked into it for a few
 >months.
 >
 >I have been using mySql for small content management sites for a little
 >less than a year, coming from an SQL Server background I am beginning to
 >adjust, but my habits die pretty hard :)
 >
 >I didn't want to mis-lead the original poster, my comment was just that
 >the environment and programmer are more important than the scripting
 >language.
 >
 >ken
 >
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: Eric Frazier [mailto:ef(at)kwinternet.com]
 >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:19 PM
 >> To: kenneth.dombrowski(at)designmattersinc.com
 >> Cc: 'Gibson, Timmi'; hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
 >> Subject: RE: CFM vs ASP
 >>
 >>
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> It is funny, transactions with mySQL are almost old news now,
 >> but it still is taking so long for people to change their
 >> thinking, get used to the idea. mySQL even has two(is there a
 >> third?) different methods of dealing with transactions,
 >> innodb or berkely db tables. I believe innodb even includes
 >> forgeign keys which the mySQL people said they hated, but at
 >> last they are there now. :)
 >>
 >> If you want to find CFM people just post to the wwwac.org
 >> list. You will find lots of out of work CF people there :)
 >>
 >>
 >> Eric
 >

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