Re: Server Side Includes & WYSIWYG editors

At 03:52 PM 12/08/00 -0500, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: howardm <howardm(at)achilles.net>
>To: Karin Ransdell <kransdell(at)squishedmosquito.com>; Gregor Pirnaver
><gregor.pirnaver(at)email.si>; hwg-tech <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
>Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:18 PM
>Subject: Re: Server Side Includes & WYSIWYG editors
>
>
> > I've downloaded First Page 2000 - it looks like a great editor - and the
> > price is right too.
> > But how do I view the SSI's I have on my pages?
> > I'm just using  <!--#include file=3D"menu.txt"  -->  and I'd like to=
 check
> > that it's OK before I upload it to my ISP.
>
>Hmmm... that probably depends on your development environment.  Since SSI
>and other server-side scripts rely on the *server* doing the processing,
>your development environment will probably have to basically imitate your
>server.  Don't bank on that, however, because that's logic talking, not
>personal experience, since my development environment *is* a server,
>therefore everything is supported and I've never really thought about it.
>You may have to create test pages and actually run them from your ISP to
>verify that everything parses correctly.

But you misread Gregor's question then because that's exactly what=20
Dreamweaver UltraDev will do (read and display SSI within the editor's=20
environment).  In addition to that, UltraDev will parse ASP, JSP and Cold=20
Fusion code in another part of its editor called the Live Data window given=
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that one has a Web server such as the free PWS (or a full fledged IIS=20
server of course) or a Cold Fusion server (there's also a free limited=20
version of that) installed on their machine.  Allaire HomeSite, which is my=
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primary Web editor, will also parse server side code through one of the=20
above mentioned Web servers with the help of something called server=20
mappings which First Page lacks and is exactly the reason I uninstalled it=
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within a an hour of trying it out (that and a slew of other features I've=20
come to depend on in HomeSite and UltraDev which are sorely lacking in=20
First Page).  Sure, First Page is free but it won't do what Gregor and=20
Howard want and it's just not a robust enough developing environment for=20
me.  Furthermore, Gregor asked for recommendations on a WYSIWYG editor=20
which First Page is not.  That's why I didn't recommend HomeSite either=20
although it's my preferred editor and it basically does what was asked for=
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but only in Preview mode through the IE browser object.  UltraDev is indeed=
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much more expensive than either FirstPage (or HomeSite for that matter) but=
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it's really a great developing tool and I'm learning to rely on it for more=
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and more things even though I'm a die hard code freak.

St=E9phane Bergeron

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