Re: no-margin settings and validation

by Kid Stevens <Kidstevens(at)comcast.net>

 Date:  Sun, 19 May 2002 09:24:28 -0600
 To:  HWG Techniques <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
 References:  noteworthydesigns
  todo: View Thread, Original
Why not use a separate style sheet?  Then use CSS to position the elements
as you see fit.  Seperate Style sheets allow for fast updates and
corrections of positions.

Try, just playing here I really don't keep this site up with other projects
in hand, http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kidstevens or
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/greyangel  Both are deeply controlled by css
and follow (mostly) Strict HTML rules.

The pages break on Yahoo if they don't follow the rules made by the
document declarations.  No declarations and Yahoo assumes you have an HTML
2.1 or 3 type doc.  If Yahoo scans and sees inline styles and DIVs it
assumes the code is HTML 3.2 and up so it checks for compatible code.

They are weeding out bad pages so that Yahoo appears to be the company to
market your sites on.  If no bad sites load then Yahoo must be a good
company! A fallacy based upon False Analogy.


At 8:42 AM -0500 5/19/02, Noteworthy Web Designs wrote:
>I'm priming www.waxstation.com for inclusion in Yahoo! From what I've
>been reading, the Yahoo! editors run the sites thru a validator to catch
>any problems and for browser compatibility. The errors that pop up
>involve the no margin settings I made in order to achieve the look I
>want (everything bumping right up to the edges of the screen.) How
>detrimental is keeping the "no margin" settings? Everything views fine
>in IE and Netscape, at 800 and 1024. If I need to get rid of them, are
>there any suggestions as to what I can do without losing the "look"?
>There's also an error popping up with a table background color. Any
>suggestions you can make would be great. I'm planning to submit this
>site tomorrow. Thanks!
>
>--
>Karen Stafford
>Noteworthy Web Designs
>"Websites Composed with Jazz"
>Web Design,Hosting,Search Promotion
>http://www.noteworthydesigns.com


http://www.waxstation.com/
Warning (1/1): <!DOCTYPE> is missing.
Warning (30/1): The attribute "LEFTMARGIN" is not allowed for the tag <BODY>.
Warning (30/1): The attribute "TOPMARGIN" is not allowed for the tag <BODY>.
Error (30/1): In the tag <BODY> the attribute "MARGINWIDTH" is not allowed.
Error (30/1): In the tag <BODY> the attribute "MARGINHEIGHT" is not allowed.
Warning (33/5): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain
absolute pixel values.
Warning (37/5): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain
absolute pixel values.
Warning (41/5): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain
absolute pixel values.
Error (45/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (53/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (63/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (63/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (73/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (73/96): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (83/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (83/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (94/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (103/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (114/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (124/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (124/96): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (135/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (135/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (145/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (155/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (155/96): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (165/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (165/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (175/45): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (175/96): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (185/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (185/70): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (194/44): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Warning (199/5): The attribute "BACKGROUND" is not allowed for the tag <TD>.
Warning (199/5): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain
absolute pixel values.
Warning (200/5): In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain
absolute pixel values.
Error (204/20): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (206/16): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (207/67): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (217/29): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (229/63): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (230/51): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (240/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (242/15): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (244/15): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (246/85): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (252/34): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (252/76): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (252/180): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (253/44): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (256/17): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
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Error (257/39): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (257/97): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (259/17): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (261/103): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (263/89): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (267/19): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (269/31): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (273/31): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Warning (280/17): The attribute "BORDERCOLOR" is not allowed for the tag
<TABLE>.
Error (294/31): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (298/15): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (309/15): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (309/106): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (312/34): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (312/135): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (314/31): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (317/113): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
-- 
Sincerely,
Kid Stevens

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people....
Let us dare to read, think, speak and write."
John Adams

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