Re: Fw: Front Pages

 another good point ann :
"One of the better approaches is to both educate and learn from your 
client
at the same time, BEFORE you start talking about bells and whistles. 
Find
out what their expectations are. Find out who their audience is. If 
their
audience is legitimately "anybody", as some retailers might be, then the
bar for accessibility is rather high. If it's "13-21 year old boys who 
love
video games and own high end computers", the bar is considerably lower. 

Serving the client goes far beyond "so, what do you want on your web 
site?" "

   This is why I truly have a problem with those who put a site up on
the web advertising the "Package" web site. They give you so many pages, 
a form for e-mail response and a JAVA applet of some sort for
a fixed price. Then someone comes to me with a totally different sort
of need and I am faced with educating them that the lake applet used 
with their logo and some cute mouseover effect navigation and frames 
is not what they need as their business presence. And if I am going to
do a well designed useful site I can not beat the package price with 
the "cute" ripply thing they can make our logo do. I do not do cookie 
cutter sites with a book of templates to choose from. The art is for 
the most part original or a rework of some print art used by the client 
already. I do onsite photography. The copy is professionally 
written. My sites validate HTML4 and Bobby.
    The client comes to me with the preconcieved notion of wanting the
site to look like that www.******.com place .... you know where this
or that happens .  It is a much harder sell to convince them why that
is not good.  I never try to sell only the gimmicks first ..... my 
question was if that is what they are willing to pay for, how much
accesiblilty are we going to have to build into the price or can we 
before they go to one of the "package deal" websites where the whole
accesibility issue is never addressed?

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