Re: I GIVE UP !!!!Re: test

Hello;
It's been a very long time since I've used the <bgsound> tag (early mid 
90's) so I may be slightly off base here, but I believe this is a 
proprietary extension for Microsoft (IE only) and not recognized by the 
validator as it is not standard html mark up. In some circles, now-a-days, 
background sound on a site is considered quite annoying and especially so 
when there is no way provided to turn it off. So, IMO at least, if you must 
use it you should provide a means to either turn it on and to turn it off so 
that when a visitor to the site moves through the pages and returns to the 
"sound" page it doesn't start all over again, But then, that's just my 
opinion, others may disagree .. :o) I think there is a way to "embed" sound 
with JavaScript that will pass the validator but I'm not familiar with it if 
you google for it you should be able to find a script that does that ..
HTH's ...
Bill.

William Haggerty
VWH Web Services
http://vwh.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PC-Bug Fixer" <help(at)pcbugfixer.com>
To: <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: I GIVE UP !!!!Re: test


> OK, seems that the list is starting to work again and the posting
> I made to the list is on the list the same day (AU EST)
>
> In some way a list such as this may be a good community type
> involvement on an International level and you get to talk and
> respond to thing that otherwise you might not.
>
> For those that do not want to be involved where they get
> everything from a community type e-mail list such as this, there
> is of course the Forum that GIO started, which has it's merits,
> in that you only get involved when you log in and only reply to
> things that are of specific interest to you.
>
> So after all this, I still do not have an answer to my Sound code
> problem on my main page and would like some help. The error is
> with any of the 2 codes I have embedded which the W3C validation
> service keeps knocking back with the following 11 ( 3 on line 20
> for 1st code and 8 on line 444 for the second code, which is the
> code as per instructions for their type) error messages;-
>
> START OF ERROR REPORT >>>
> This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!
> Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with
> an SGML parser.
>
> Line 20, column 15: there is no attribute "SRC"
> <BGSOUND src="webwav/WelcomeMessage.wav" loop="1">
>
> You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the
> document type you are using does not support that attribute for
> this element. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the
> "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you
> must use the "Transitional" document type to get the "target"
> attribute), or by using vendor proprietary extensions such as
> "marginheight" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
> desired effect instead).
>
> This error may also result if the element itself is not supported
> in the document type you are using, as an undefined element will
> have no supported attributes; in this case, see the
> element-undefined error message for further information.
>
> How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and
> attribute, (Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that
> they are both allowed in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS
> instead of this attribute.
>
> ?
> Line 20, column 48: there is no attribute "LOOP"
> <BGSOUND src="webwav/WelcomeMessage.wav" loop="1">
>
> ?
> Line 20, column 51: element "BGSOUND" undefined
> <BGSOUND src="webwav/WelcomeMessage.wav" loop="1">
>
> You have used the element named above in your document, but the
> document type you are using does not define an element of that
> name. This error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict"
> document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use
> the "Frameset" document type to get the "<frameset>" element), or
> by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>" or
> "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the
> desired effect instead).
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 312: there is no attribute "SRC"
> ...">Downloads</A></FONT></P><EMBED
> src="webwav/WelcomeMessage.wav" hidden="YES"
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 347: there is no attribute "HIDDEN"
> ...c="webwav/WelcomeMessage.wav" hidden="YES" autostart="TRUE"
> loop="FALSE" widt
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 363: there is no attribute "AUTOSTART"
> ...eMessage.wav" hidden="YES" autostart="TRUE" loop="FALSE"
> width="0" height="0"
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 375: there is no attribute "LOOP"
> ..." hidden="YES" autostart="TRUE" loop="FALSE" width="0"
> height="0" align="cent
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 389: there is no attribute "WIDTH"
> ... autostart="TRUE" loop="FALSE" width="0" height="0"
> align="center">
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 400: there is no attribute "HEIGHT"
> ..."TRUE" loop="FALSE" width="0" height="0" align="center">
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 410: there is no attribute "ALIGN"
> ...p="FALSE" width="0" height="0" align="center">
>
> ?
> Line 444, column 418: element "EMBED" undefined
> ..." width="0" height="0" align="center">
> <<< END OF ERROR REPORT
>
> So does anyone know the correct embedded code, or does W3C not
> think that sound is an acceptable code.
>
> Regards
> Roger H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> [mailto:owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org]On
> Behalf Of PC-Bug Fixer
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:29 AM
> To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> Subject: RE: I GIVE UP !!!!Re: test
>
>
> Interesting Bill,
> I will do as you suggest,
> Reply All and delete You from the To Field and monitor the
> result.
> However, we still have missing e-mail posts on the list
> Regards
> Roger
>
>
>
> 

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