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Re: Validation Help

by "Matthew Ohlman" <matthew(at)ohlman.com>

 Date:  Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:01:57 -0500
 To:  "Anthony Romano" <datachem(at)shadow.net>,
<hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
 References:  mac default
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Bert is absolutley right. The best way that I know how to do this is with
CSS. But, so Netscape 4 could view this, you could write a script, to
redirect the page to a Netscape Freindly version. If you would like, I could
send you a some JavaScript code that does this. Let me know.

Matthew
http://www.ohlman.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert" <bert(at)betterwebdesign.com.au>
To: "Anthony Romano" <datachem(at)shadow.net>; <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Validation Help


> G'day
>
> > When trying to validate I am told there are no such attributes as
> topmargin,
> > etc. and will not validate the page.
>
> These are browser specific tags that are not part of the spec, so they are
> indeed invalid.
>
> > Is there a way that I can validate the page and still  use these
> attributes or
> > substitute that will validate.
>
> There is no substitute TAG for these that is valid.  However, you can use
> CSS to get the same effect in MSIE 5/6 and Netscape 6.  Won't work in
> Netscape 4 and I'm not sure about MSIE4.  You will have to decide which is
> more important - have the site look the way you intended in Netscape 4
> (though relatively few people still use it) or write valid code and accept
> that some old browsers will not display the page quite as intended .
Here's
> one version that should validate in HTML4.01 Transitional:
>
> <body style="margin:0;padding:0;" bgcolor="#ffffff" link="#008c82"
> vlink="#008c82" text="#000000" alink="#000000">
>
> One other option that may even work in Netscape 4 is to position the BODY
> tag (again with CSS) to coordinates 0,0.  Be careful as it can cause other
> problems::
>
> <body style="position:absolute;top:0;left:0;" bgcolor="#ffffff"
> link="#008c82" vlink="#008c82" text="#000000" alink="#000000">
>
> Experiment with the above and see what works best for you.
>
> Regards
> --
> Bert Doorn, Web Developer
> CIW Associate, IWA Member
> www.betterwebdesign.com.au
> Fast Loading, User Friendly Websites
>
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Romano" <datachem(at)shadow.net>
To: <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:21 PM
Subject: Validation Help


> I have a webpage where the body tag is using topmargin, leftmargin,
> marginwidth and marginheight thusly:
>
> <BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0
> bgcolor="#ffffff" link="#008c82" VLINK="#008c82" text="#000000"
> ALINK="#000000">
>
> I have defined the doc type as:  <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML
4.0
> Transitional//EN"
>         "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">
>
> When trying to validate I am told there are no such attributes as
topmargin,
> etc. and will not validate the page.  Is there a way that I can validate
the
> page and still  use these attributes or substitute that will validate.
> Thanks.
>
> Anthony Romano
> "Justice through Science"
>

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