Re: . . . Solutions <read this>

Hugh:

I'm sorry--I wanted to stay out of this--but I have to come down hard on the
side of Dusty on this one.

There is NEVER any excuse for rudeness. NEVER!!!!

You can use words like "terse" all you want but it still does not excuse the
fact that the response was not only tactless--it was arrogant. I am a
seventy year old, rough and boorish old fussbudget, not known for timid or
genteel discourse. But if someone had talked to me in that manner, I would
have been ready to do battle.

We have to all realize that many who ask questions on this list, do so with
embarrassment and timidity. They already know they have a problem and don't
understand what went wrong. So--they start out feeling a little unsure and
maybe a bit incompetent.

The last thing they need is to have someone--ANYONE--tell them they don't
know what their doing. Sure--that reply was technically correct. But it was
a long ways short of tactful. Gosh--even Fuzzy and I, (who are worlds apart
on the best way to validate a page), are at least polite to each other.

Every month--often several every week--I get many, many messages sent to me
directly--because the persons sending them are AFRAID to ask the question on
this list. Especially if the question pertains to a Microsoft product. When
you think about it, this is shameful!!

We need to remember that we have people on this list from all over the
world. To many, English is a second language. And using it may already cause
a lack of self confidence. Let us all be careful how we reply lest we hurt
people.

Come on kids--play nice ...
Best wishes
Ted Temer
Temercraft Designs Redding, CA
temer(at)c-zone.net
www.temercraft.com/novels/
www.newsredding.com/
www.ramac-rc.org/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Blair" <hblair(at)bigfoot.com>
To: <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: . . . Solutions <read this>


> Dusty, get a life.  A good one.  Just because someone is terse
> does -not- mean their response has "utter lack of tact" or that
> it is "totally worthless".  Of course, you are careful to say
> that this is "my opinion".  It's -my- opinion that your comments
> on this suck.  If you're so easily offended, stay home with the
> doors and windows shut.  Turn off the TV and radio.  Don't read
> the newspaper.
>
> There just might be something in RealLife(tm) that offends you.
> When someone gives you a terse answer, you think that they are
> treating you "like an idiot".  It's just too bad that you want
> folks to treat you gently.  This is the RealWorld.  Live in it.
>
> Or, as I earlier suggested, you just might get a real life.
>
> -Hugh
> ____________________________
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Behalf Of Dusty
> > Subject: Re: . . . Solutions <read this>
> >
> > Mr. Bonini--
> > Ok, now let ME be "direct and to the point." The condescending
> > tone of your messages has so far out-shadowed any potentially
constructive
> advice as to
> > make them totally worthless in my opinion. Your original message grated
on
> > my nerves, but I refrained from saying anything as it was not directed
> > toward me. But this has gone too far. Even though I am not the target of
> > this utter lack of tact, as a member of this list and one who reads the
> > messages that come across it, I am VERY offended. Your behavior
> > is not only unprofessional, it is just downright rude. I might expect
such
> > actions from one of my students, but even they would hear about it.
> >
> > You can be sure that it will be quite some time before I venture to pose
a
> > question to this group again, as I have no wish to be the target of such
> > boorishness and poor taste. You obviously have the expertise to be able
to
> > offer good advice, but at this point I could care less. I joined this
list
> > to learn, not to be treated like an idiot because I don't know as much
as
> > some people here.
> >
> > Oh, and I DO appreciate the answers everyone made to my question
regarding
> > the password protect. I will consider all of it carefully.
> >
> > Dusty
> >
>
>

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