Re: Mac HTML editors

In response to Edward Springer latest posting:

Right on!  I am amazed that, most people it seems, steal though the methods
you described and simply don't see it that way!  They just don't get it!  I
serve on a committee at my church that advises the church on their hardware
and software purchases, and helps with installation, maintanence and the
like.  After a short time being a member, I realized that some of the
software the church was using was illegal.  I brought this issue up in a
meeting one day and most of the members just kinda stared at me for a moment
in disbelief,  blinking their eyes like I was an over zelous boy scout or
something.  To this day I'm not sure if they felt like they were excempt
because we are a non-profit organization, or since we don't have tons of
money that the ends justified the means, or simply they just never thought
about it, but I got a fair amount of  resistance at first.  However, I was
persistant, but diplomatic and I believe I'm winning the battle.  As a
church, I felt it should be setting a proper example on ethical issues.  If
they don't, God help us.

Sorry for continuing this off topic thread, I guess I wanted to tell this
story to show just how deep this mind set runs.

Steve Antonio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward & Charla Springer" <egs(at)hiwaay.net>
To: "Jim Tom Polk" <jtpolk(at)texas.net>; <hwg-basics(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Mac HTML editors


> Good Morning HWG Basic List,
>
> I guess that when you respond to an e-mail late in the evening you can
> expect to be a bit unclear.
>
> In my origninal response the point I wanted to make is this;
>
> 1. If you use software that is being sold as a product in order to produce
> content for which you are paid you should, whether it is commercial off
the
> shelf, mail order, or distributed by sharware, pay for that software and
not
> use "demo" versions for commercial (make money) purposes. Demo versions
are
> just for that, for you to test run to see if they fulfil your needs and if
> you want to purchase it for your use.
>
> 2. If you are using a graphics software to produce GIF graphics for sites
> that you are developing for a client you need to use properly licensed,
that
> means payed for, software to protect yourself and your client from
> liability, as was explained in Jim Polk's reply.
>
> 3. By "professional web developers" I mean people who make a living, or
> otherwise get paid, for developing and creating web based content. Whether
> you run your own business, are employeed by someone, or freelance.
>
> 4. My personal opinion is that if someone creates a program and offers it
> for sale, again either by off the shelf sale, mail order, or through the
> sharware channels, they expect to and should be paid for that product.
Using
> "demos" or unregistered shareware beyound the agreed to demo period is
> stealing, plain and simple. My son works for a major retailer, he always
> tells of customers who come in, purchase a high priced product, then
return
> it, used, in a few days. Obviously, the intent was to "rent" the product
> with no intent of keeping it. To him, and me, that is stealing.
>
> I know that many people will flame me for this view point. Don't care, big
> boy, can take it. BUT, for those who think that I am off base, ask
yourself
> if you would like it to happen to you after putting hard work and valuable
> resources into developing and offering for sale a product. How long would
> your employer stay in business if people did that to their products?
>
> Edward Springer
> Athens, Alabama
>
> PS: My apologies for getting off topic.

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