Re: Brain cramp lying on the Table

Jim:

I hate to say this but I think you are asking for trouble, trying
to get a table to line up with a graphic. Not only will different
browsers cause trouble--different screen resolutions will do the
same. Also, do not forget that most view with their browsers set
at considerably less than full screen. All these factors will
cause trouble.

I would do a quick re-design of the upper graphic so that it
would be unnecessary to line up the table below.

You might also give some thought to placing the graphic in a one
cell table and then make sure that BOTH tables have the same
width. Even here you may be forced to used fixed widths rather
than a percentage to keep the pixel count the same.

Background images are very tricky things. Even some of the "big
hot shot" sites that use them can get some "interesting" results
when viewed, either at 640x480 or at the other extreme.

An old graphic artist trick is to use the same color theme
horizontally on the top and vertically down the body of the page.
The continuity is still there and there are no alignment
problems.

I pulled your site into FrontPage and it took only a few seconds
to line it up, (Plain HTML tables), but then I viewed in  two
different browsers. Each showed it differently.

As an old print media graphic artist I must admit that the lack
of control in HTML has brought me to point of tears on several
occasions. It is certainly no place for sissies, but I keep
sniffling and trying.

Good luck and best wishes
Ted Temer
Temercraft Designs Redding, CA
temer(at)c-zone.net
http://www.temercraft.com
http://www.newsredding.com/
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim H <jim(at)haslam.com>
    To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
    Date: December 8, 1999 15:33
    Subject: Brain cramp lying on the Table


    Hi Everyone:

    Here is the background information:
    I am creating a free site for our local school district. They
wanted to see a sample of what a site might look like for them. I
created a quick one page teaser and posted it up on my server.
But when I checked it...to my horror...( :-o) ... my table with
the main graphic in the top cell doesn't line up with the
background image. The fix should be to have the table be flush
with the left hand margin and also be flush with the top. [I can
fix it with an absolute setting and place the table where I want
it (great for IE4+ viewers). However, the district uses NN
browsers and their version won't support CSS.] Sample site
located at: http://www.foreverimaging.com/dcsd

    The Delema:
    I have looked through my HTML Bible, checked all the
tutorials I have bookmarked, and finally looked at the HWG
archives, but can't find quite what I'm looking for. I'm pulling
my hair out trying to remember the code (My only conclusion...I
must be stupid.)

    The Solution (I'm hoping):
    Put it out an A.P.B. on the HWG list and let all you
intelligent people see what a goof I am, and hope that someone
will take compassion on me (or smacks me up along-side of my
head) and spark my memory as to what the code should be to make a
table line up at the "top-left" of a web page! Any help is
appreciated.

    I humbly thank you for your time!




James Haslam
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The HTML Writers Guild
International Webmasters Association

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