Re: Accessibility validation

Hello Hilma,


Accessibility requires also a page is accessible without java script.

I looked your page in http://www.accessibility.nl  click site testen  snoop
with only tables and images on.. or test your site in lynx is also possible in
this site.. .

Your popup-menus are not accessible without javascript and  in this way you
offer different information to sighted
and not sighted visitors. I don't think you want that.
There is also something wrong with your text about the browsers . I can read the
code not the text.
I can see | between the links but WCAG requires this [  ...] and when you want
to have the validation-icons on your page , put || in your alt  (altribute alt="
|| " ) and || will be showed on lynx to seperate them.

Greetings
Ineke van der Maat


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hilma" <Hilma(at)hilma.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: Accessibility validation


> Now i have my W3C strict validation (and a trivial change to do for CSS
> validation, which i keep forgetting) -
> i have decided to go for accessibility validation :-)
>
> I seem to have lost the W3C validator link; so i'm using "bobby" at
> http://www.cast.org/bobby/
>
> Along with a number of warnings -
> the only show-stopped is my nav bar; as links are "separated only by white
> space" which is a no-no for this validation.
> (They nerge in a text-only browser, i need a seperator symbol).
>
> So i decided to insert a pipe symbol, but in the same colour as the
> menu-background -  so it would be invisible to user with graphic browsers.
> I assume that it will show in a text-only browser, but i haven't got me a
> text-only browser to check up in).
> (And i don;t want this to mess up my central alignment)
>
> So i changed all my nav links to
> <a href="HHMain.htm"        class="NavButton" id="mnuMain" >Main <span
> class="splitBar">|</span></a>
>
> with
> .splitBar {color:#71ad78 }
>
> (yes, I *know* <span> is not to be used; but i want this pipe next to the
> link but with a style of its own, to make it invisible).
> But it still goes onto a new line, on its own, so spreading all my nav
> buttons out
>
> As i type, it's at
> http://mysite.freeserve.com/bbm/hagar/HH/HHAbout.htm
>
> (the bottom 3 buttons, colour currently rather inconsistent but not yet set
> to invisible).
> I think that each pipe gets a new line becasue the  NavButton class is
> defined as
>
> .NavButton {
> display:block;  width: 130px;  height: 18px;
> padding: 2px;
> border:3px outset #99cc99;
> margin:3px;
> background:#71ad78;
> font: small Verdana;
> text-align:center;
> text-decoration: none;
> }
>
> but my questions are really:
> 1/ Is it acceptable to have a pipe the same colour as the background, to
> allow Bobby accessibility validation?
> 2/ How do i get my pipe next to my nav button (without messing up the
> central alignment of the link text)?
> 3/ What would be the most elegant way to get my accessibility validation -
> as i really don;t *like* this method -
> it is an awful lot of html, and uses the <span> tag (which i have been
> "encouraged not to ;-) " -
> and I only do so now as an attempt to get validation, as i cannot think of a
> better way! .
>
> Many thanks for any ideas on this one -
>
> hilma    <-- collecting validation stickers as fast as i can ;-)
> --x-----
>
>

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