Re: A Perfect Web Site!

So what do you say to people who use Linux?  Linux is a growing force
online, and I can't see a version of IE for Linux coming out any time soon.

Justin H.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Temer" <temer(at)c-zone.net>
To: "HWGBASICS" <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: A Perfect Web Site!


> Gregor:
>
> I think you miss my point. You state that:
> > People should be free to chose the way they want to access
> > information on the web.
>
> Sure--I'll buy that--but if you access TV with a B&W set, don't cry
because
> you can't see the color.
>
> And:
> > DHTML is cool. So what? IMHO accessibility is far more
> > important than coolness. Is coolness the only thing you
> > have to offer?
>
> There's more to it than "coolness"--but ... Yeah--pretty much.
>
> Accessibility is all very well and good in an academic ideal. In fact, I
do
> try to make a token pass toward Bobby requirements. But even here, I draw
> the line at getting rid of my tables!!
>
> However--I was addressing those who were still fussing over the eternal
> question of which W3C DTD to use for what Validator. There was also the
same
> old opinions as to which "ideal" standard a poor web author should use so
> that "everybody" could see their work.
>
> I simply pointed out that in the very real, practical sense, one--and only
> one such "standard" exists today--right now--in the real day to day world.
> And that is the artificial one that has been imposed upon us by IE-5+
> browsers.
>
> Love it or loath it--the de-facto "standard" does exist. And no matter how
> long and loud we champion all of our various W3C's or other gods worshiped
> by the various factions, the commercial world is going about their
business
> designing web sites for real people, with real susceptibilities to glitz
and
> glamour, and not for web academics.
>
> I have never demanded that EVERYONE should follow my suggestion. I am
simply
> pointing out that the solution already exists for those willing to use it.
> It is my personal feeling that continuing to weep for the
might-have-been's
> or the should-bee's is just academic self indulgence.
>
> It's sort of like the people in the United States arguing over A.M. and
P.M.
> and whether it is proper to say Twelve o'clock-pee-emm or Twelve Noon.
> Regardless of the winner of that sillyness, the majority of the world
still
> uses the twenty four hour clock.
>
> Again best wishes
> Ted Temer
>
>
> > Choice is GOOD!
> >
> >
> > On Monday 12 February 2001 19:57 you wrote:
> > > Glitz and glitter are the norm.
> >
> > DHTML is cool. So what? IMHO accessibility is far more
> > important than coolness. Is coolness the only thing you
> > have to offer?
> >
> >
> > > If they are working for a boss or CEO so stupid as not to
> > > realize that if they don't upgrade, then their
> > > compitition will---well then, it may be time to look for
> > > a more stable source of income.
> >
> > People should be free to chose the way they want to access
> > information on the web.
> >
> >
> > > Why IE-5?? Simple. It's the most popular. It supports the
> > > most features and even comes on all the new computers.
> >
> > Which IE5? :)
> >
> >
> > > I leave you now to go rummage through the closet to see
> > > if I still have a set of fireman's turn-outs left from my
> > > law enforcement cross training. I suspect I'm going to
> > > need them.
> >
> > :) You can joke about it, but I think it is really sad that
> > so few are able to see the whole picture. There are just so
> > many ways web developers could use web to everyone's
> > advantage if only they could see beyond the form.
> >
> > --
> > Gregor @ Mandrake 7.2 -> KDE 2.0 -> Kmail 1.1.99 -> ;-)
> >
>

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