Re: Results: Need a nav column that stays in middle-left of window

At 10:08 AM 12/13/00 -0800, Complex wrote:

"There is no question. Some search engines do not support frames."

and

"You can copy your content into a noframes tag, but I have no faith in my
own or my successor's ability to update both the source page AND the
noframes tag every time."

are WAY different things. I hereby beseech you to send along the URL of a
single search service that says "we do not index framed sites even if you
have no frames content".

~That~ would be "does not support frames".

As for motivation to stay on top of those links . . . can you say
"Customers can not buy from me because I can not be found"? How about: "1%
of the Internet is a BUNCH of potential customers"?

Repeat each three times while filling out your payroll checks. Your
motivation should improve quickly.

Again, I am NOT a fan of frames in most cases, but saying search engines
and directory services will not index framed sites is blatantly incorrect. 

Try: "Most search engines and director services will not list your framed
site if it is build with no NO FRAMES content containing links to your
other pages."

*That* is factual, and accurate.

:-),
Fuzzy.



>frames: Yes, I'm looking for JavaScript (or something additional?) that
>produces the same functionality as frames. That is recreating the
>wheel, I know, but I do not want to use frames.
>
>A question about frames and search engines? There is no question. Some
>search engines do not support frames. Specifically, those engines will
>not open up the pages that are the sources for your individual frames.
>Inktomi is one example. You can copy your content into a noframes tag,
>but I have no faith in my own or my successor's ability to update both
>the source page AND the noframes tag every time.
>
>scripts:  A couple people gave us some links to very good script sites,
>which I've bookmarked: http://www.javascript-page.com/watermark.html
>and http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/staticmenu3.htm.
>Unfortunately, each of these scripts has a problem with Macintosh IE
>4.5 and possibly IE 5. Sorta surprising, but true. They can probably be
>fixed, so keep your eye on them if you're interested in the same thing.
>Otherwise, the watermark or static menu 3 were just what I was looking
>for.
>
>Netscape 6: It may be dead on arrival, but it's still out there and I
>_know_ I'm going to get a call from a customer... It doesn't work! The
>unfortunate (?) nature of small businesses, particularly small
>businesses with inherently geeky customers. Besides which, I want to
>write or use scripts that adhere to standards when possible...
>
>Relevance of search engines: I, too, have low opinions of search
>engines, and even lower opinions of paid-position search engines.
>However, search engines are still relevant, because people (customers!)
>still use them. Customers do find us with search engines, even though
>we aren't always (and can't always be) at the top of every list. My job
>is to make certain we don't disappear entirely, and that we appear as
>highly in the list as reasonably possible. If we used frames, we'd
>disappear from some widely used indexes like Inktomi's, which just
>isn't acceptable. Also, I feel I'd lose some of Temer's respect.
>
>Geeky customers: Yeah, I said it. It's true!
>
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