Re: Web Hosting

Mikey. Please, take my word for this:

Print Ted's message and stick it on your wall somewhere. It is a classic
and probably the best damned explanation of THE FACTS I have ever seen in
my entire life.

Ted, I know you're struggling to get up off the floor right about now, but
. . . 

Well, I don't know what to say, except that . . . I just printed it.

:-)
Fuzzy
<hat off, exposing bald spot on top of a mountain of hair>



At 01:45 PM 3/10/01 , Ted Temer wrote:
>Ah -- -- Michael -- There is just something about Saturdays.
>
>Let me qualify this by reciting my belief that you are talking about the web
>sites these various hosting services have created for themselves.
>
>First off -- just because someone provides hosting services and/or servers,
>etc. does not mean they are --or should even be expected--to be experts of
>every aspect of web development or HTML. After all, they have their own
>unique set of problems to keep ahead of, in ensuring the "space/site" you
>are leasing is working correctly. There are CGI scripts, ASP .htaccess, and
>SQL support, etc. etc. Not to mention FrontPage Extensions, Cold Fusion, and
>the guy that just can't seem to FTP without messing up the works.
>
>They may be great at this aspect but still lacking in somebody's or
>something's version of what "perfect" HTML is.
>
>Here is where you are going to get me yelled at but I feel duty bound to
>state the obvious.
>
>The whole idea of "validation" assumes perfection. The scientific mind will
>stoutly insist that perfection is an impossibility. There is just no such
>thing as perfection. And--With the possible exception of my ex-wife's legs I
>would have to agree.
>
>And--while most on this list will offer W3C as the shinning example of that
>so called perfection, all the argument and discussion that has occurred on
>this list over the various DTD's should make it rather obvious that even to
>us HTML gurus, there does seem to be several versions of that perfection.
>
>I should also mention that there are several other "validators" around. I
>have even downloaded a couple to my hard drive. Are they any more accurate
>than the validation database build into FrontPage or Dreamweaver? The answer
>does seem to be more one of religious belief than science.
>
>If you actually took the time to research several hundred sites, you will be
>in for a terrible shock. Not just a few--but the vast majority of them, will
>NOT validate. However, most of them WILL display in your browser just fine.
>
>Fuzzy has expounded at length on his method of insuring both validation and
>general browser acceptance. And he is right as far as it goes. In fact--to a
>point--I follow his advise.  But not even Fuzzy--in the heat of
>argument--would dare claim that his method will insure that a site so
>constructed will display every feature in every browser in the world. There
>are just too many odd-ball features and too many browsers that may--or may
>not support them.
>
>Not to mention the dozens of little goodies that can be changed or turned
>off by the surfer using their brand X browser.
>
>Just like FrontPage is always criticized because a person can construct some
>gosh awful sites in the program. [It does try to please]  So too, can you
>create a site that will validate at W3C but still be nearly worthless to
>those visiting it.
>
>And so--I claim that there is no real answer here. After all, YOU are the
>one who will be creating the web site that the host will be hosting.
>
>I guess what I am saying here is:  You do you job and let the host worry
>about theirs and you can be pretty certain that your client could care less,
>just as long as it works in THEIR browser. [sad, cynical sigh]
>
>Best wishes
>Ted Temer
>Temercraft Designs Redding, CA
>temer(at)c-zone.net
>www.temercraft.com/novels/
>www.newsredding.com/
>www.ramac-rc.org/
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