I agree as well.  I started to make a post myself (although probably
wouldn't have been quiiiiiiiite as vocal - ha ha), but the text of Charles'
response is right on track in every aspect.  What you proposed goes against
good design practices and against the "true" nature of html.  It is meant
more for conveyance of content than it is for layout and design.  Good
practices, though, allows you to accomplish both at the same time.

Sincerely,
Keith D Sellars
WebGraffix
www.webgraffix.com
"Making the Internet Easy"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blue Tapp Scheffer" <blue(at)bluesarthouse.com>
To: "Charles A Upsdell" <cupsdell(at)upsdell.com>; <hwg-basics(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Resolutions 800 x 600 vs. 1024 x 768


> Wow Charles, why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel?  ;-)  Actually I
> agree with Charles 100%!  No offense to the person who posted the js
> solution but that solution is not a good idea IMHO.
>
> Blue Tapp Scheffer
> Blue's ArtHouse Graphics & Web Design
> 705 North Florissant Road
> Ferguson, MO 63135
> phone: 314-839-0634
> fax: 314-839-1557
> email: blue(at)bluesarthouse.com
> website: www.bluesarthouse.com
>
> "Time To Get A Web Site!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org]On
> Behalf Of Charles A Upsdell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:43 AM
> To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> Subject: Re: Resolutions 800 x 600 vs. 1024 x 768
>
>
> This is about the worst advice I could imagine!!!
>
> 1.  It does nothing if JavaScript is disabled (about 10% of users).
>
> 2.  It checks the screen width, i.e. the width of the display.  What about
> the many people who don't maximize their browsers ... e.g. I have
1024x768,
> but normally have a browser window about 800 pixels wide, and I often
> resize this to something else, e.g. so that I can see pertinent parts of
> several windows.
>
> 3.  It changes the size of the browser window:  DON'T SCREW AROUND WITH
THE
> SIZE OF MY BROWSER WINDOW; THE USER SHOULD CONTROL THE SIZE, NOT YOU!
>
> 4.  It changes the position of the browser window:  DON'T SCREW AROUND
WITH
> THE POSITION OF MY BROWSER WINDOW; THE USER SHOULD CONTROL THE POSITION,
> NOT YOU!
>
> 5.  It is completely unnecessary.  You can make fluid pages that look good
> at all resolutions by avoiding absolute sizes and focusing on percentages
> instead: and fluid design makes it EASIER to make pages.
>
> At 08:40 AM 01/13/04, you wrote:
> >Use javascript and write the link statement to use different cascading
> >sheets depending upon the resolution. In each css page define the
position
> >of each element.
> >
> ><script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript">
> ><!--     Script finds screen resolution then writes link to style
> heet.  -->
> >         if (screen.width > 1000)
> >        {
> >                 document.write("<link rel='stylesheet'
> > href='../css_files/1024_style.css' type='text/css'>");
> >                 window.resizeTo(1000,730);
> >                 window.moveTo(15,10);
> >        }
> >
> >     if (screen.width < 1000)
> >            {
> >                     document.write("<link rel='stylesheet'
> > href='../css_files/800_style.css' type='text/css'>");
> >                     window.resizeTo(775,575);
> >                     window.moveTo(15,10);
> >                         }
> >// -->
> ></script>
> >
> >At 08:08 AM 1/12/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >>thanks, But i did not develop for any perticular resolution it was just
> >>that that is the one I use and then when I looked at it in 800 x 600 the
> >>concept was no longer what I planed.
> >>
> >>I think that I will move the navigation Images Photos, home,
> >>events,members to the side this way it is still seen regardless of the
> >>resolution.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Annery Kiln Web Design <info(at)annerykiln.co.uk>
> >>Sent: January 12, 2004 4:57:11 AM GMT
> >>To: David D Pippen <pipwax1(at)bellsouth.net>, hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> >>Subject: Re: Resolutions 800 x 600  vs. 1024 x 768
> >>
> >> > I am working on a site and I designed it for 1024 x 768, which is
what
> I
> >> > use, however the site is not as attractive In 600 x 800. I would like
> to
> >> > know how you guys deal with this situation?
> >>
> >>No web site ought to be 'designed' to a specific resolution. If you
> >>are designing to web standards you should be able to write one set of
> >>code which will display in all browser resolutions and that will
> >>degrade gracefully in older browsers.
> >>
> >>Search Google for: 'Jeffrey Zeldman' and look at:
> >>
> >>http://www.alistapart.com/
> >>
> >>Marten Gallagher
> >>
> >>--
> >>Annery Kiln Web Design
> >>Delivering Information Effectively
> >>www.annerykiln.co.uk
> >>Web Design and Site Management
> >>Web Hosting and Print Design
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>.
> >
>
> -
> Chuck Upsdell, www.upsdell.com
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