Spammers and "The Blacklist"
by "Judith C. Kallos" <webmaster(at)theistudio.com>
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Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:33:44 -0500 |
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Hey, all....
First let me state I really don't want to get into a flame-fest on spam
do's or don'ts because that is right up there with sex, religion and
politics. ;-) Just that I hate not "knowing" something I've heard about
or experienced and hopefully, someone can enlighten me on the subject of
infamous "Blacklist". I know it exists based on a situation about 5 years
ago with a client that was blacklisted in error. Their hosting company
stated they were on "The Blacklist" and were able to remedy the situation.
Against our recommendations a client went ahead and spammed 100s of
thousands of folks and not only that relayed through third party servers in
the process. Needless to say their hosting company shut them down F.A.S.T.
(even quicker actually) and it is apparent that they are on the infamous
Blacklist as the relocated site is not visible through various ISPs (the
domain transfer has propagated) and email is bouncing back with a specific
message that the mail was from an identified spammer and blocked from that
particular system(s).
Now, I don't feel sorry for this client - it is clear they still don't
understand the magnitude of their decision "I get cold-call telemarketed at
home at 8 in the evening - this is the same thing". We are clear about the
repercussions as well that my company will not/cannot be their advocate
when a client specifically ignores our advice on this topic.
I relocated the site to a new server (warned them again for the last time
<hint-hint>) and that is as much as I want to get involved in this
particular situation. Thank goodness this is maintenance/strategy client
and our name was not on any of the domain records. BTW, if any of you have
handled this type of situation differently please let me know.
That said, for my own knowledge - where can you find out about this topic
in general and who is on The Blacklist? I was really surprised how
quickly this site was shut-down and Blacklisted so there must be a site, or
a cooperative group of Hosts/ISPs who when someone goes too far this
happens. The question then becomes the legality of Blacklisting a business
(how far is too far and what are the criteria) and the potential liability
to said Blacklist if they err (more my concern with spammers using false
identities) - which based on my own experience 5 years ago can happen.
I just know there has to be more info on this and any thoughts, resources
or information any of you may have would be appreciated! ;-)
/j
"Although it is within the realm of possibility to escort equus
caballus to a location providing a potable mixture of hydrogen and
oxygen, one cannot coerce said mammal to imbibe."
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