Re: website

Elias made some good points here and I agree totally, but I'd like to add my
two sense into it.

first off Kurt I'm going to assume a few things here. first off I'm pretty
sure you can work a computer competently, and that you know how the internet
works. Second I'm going to assume that your first website will probably be
like everyone else's first website, basic and fun. If this is the case you
could make you site in word and export it, MS publisher and export it, or
buy a $200 WYSIWYG publisher and publish it that way. any way you do it it's
going to be your site and you should be happy with it to a point. Since
you've read a book and know some little basic's I'd recommend that you use a
WYSIWYG editor at first. make a few very basic pages. then open the files in
a text editor like notepad and read the code. from here pick at the code and
learn why a <Br> tag cause you to start a new line. it's only when you know
the code and can read it like music that you can truly build wonderful
sites. I got stuck in the WYSIWYG world for awhile there and it wasn't till
I went out and played and got involved in Lists like this that I started to
open up the OLE textpad again. WYSIWYG is great to lay the foundation but I
wouldn't build a house on it till I looked for cracks.

Eric Jones                         jonese(at)gci-net.com
                 Jonesin' Productions LLC
                 Web Design & Consulting
      Computer Troubleshooting & Training
----- Original Message -----
From: Elias Thienpont <elias(at)assumptionabbey.com>
To: HTML Writers Guild / Critique <hwg-critique(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: FW: website


> Hi Kurt...
>
> I have been using Adobe PageMill with good results. Of course the Hand
> Coding vs. Monster WYSIWYG programs flame wars have been going on since
> before the invention of the computer. You ought to check the list archives
> to see the worthwhile and other information on this topic, for there are
> pros and cons for each.
>
> Still, I found PageMill a good place to start, and while I would like to
> replace it with GoLive, I do not have the resources to make the change at
> this time.  I would also suggest a good hand coding tool, and have just
> downloaded a free copy of CuteHTML, which seems to be a very useful
adjunct
> to a WYSIWYG  program.  Here is why: I just got my ISP to set up my
> guestbook for me. He said I could modify the colors and layout. So I
> download it and open it in PageMill, but PageMill rewrote the codes, and
now
> it doesn't work, and I have to bug my ISP all over again to fix it. Had I
> used CuteHTML, it would have shown me the raw code, and I could have at
> least had control over the code.
>
> PageMill is also quite old, and does not support newer HTML protocols, and
> does not tolerate a <DOCTYPE> tag, nor does it validate well, or so I am
> told, for I have had no need to bother with DOCTYPES and Validations at
this
> time.
>
> I had also considered MS FrontPage on the recommendation of the computer
> classes I had taken at the university. Turns out (without starting *that*
> flame war again) that it does not write "tight" code. HWG has a software
> mailing list, but I have not joined that one, maybe there is useful
> information in there too. It would be nice to have a page that compares
this
> software, and with various comments on each (probably is one somewhere
> around here too).
>
> Br. Elias
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-basics(at)hwg.org] On Behalf
> Of kurt stanwick
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 15:42
> To: hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
> Subject: website
>
>
> first of all I'd like to thank tom for his reply...thanx
> my questions will be basic because i am just getting started in
> developing websites.....first i want to start my own....i have ms
> publisher and adobe page mill....is it ok to start out with these
> programs or should i write in html...I've read a beginners guide to
> html....but I know very little about it....thanx for being patient with
> my ignorance.....but i will get there...you can email me at
> kurteye(at)goes.com=20
>
>

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