RE: web design -- one Photoshop file with everything ???

Lisa writes

> I can see the value of the layout principle --- but to me it just seems
> more practical to create the images that you are using individually and
> work with them in a page layout program if ideally what we want to do
> is present the client with a web-based mechanical (in the same way
> graphic desginers present comps or mechanicals to clients). Sooner or
> later one would have to use HTML and whatever scripts are needed to
> make the thing function. I guess my main concern is it seems to add a
> lot more time and labor to a job to rely on Photoshop as a layour tool.
> But like anything I guess if it works for you and works well -- then
> its not as time-consuming as one might think.
>

(see my previous post first)

Lisa

I can see your point and for some sites, yes this is the way to go.  I have
done like you, the separate image builds and a rough HTML build too, this
can be just as fast with the later WYSIWYG editors.

But tell me what do you do when the client wants to see all three of the
different designs that you have paper sketched on their screen, because they
"just can't see it" . This can be a lot of building of almost three site
templates for nothing. When a series of one solid image visual mockups can
do the trick.  Now these's mockups are perfect but they give the rough idea
to the client. Well thats how I use them.

I suppose like you say its all down to speed. I would like to know what
other people do.

This industry is young.  And you'll find that even the "experts" training
people these days don't have any of the answers.

Gary

radharc.

> A lot of people are in some form or another it seems.

> Heather writes
> > While not responding directly to the original post,
> > I do have a related
> > comment.
> >
> > I use Adobe Image Styler extensively to create my
> > web graphics.   It is
> > extremely simple to arrange the graphics I've just
> > created in approximately
> > the layout I want on the final page.   I find this
> > very helpful in deciding
> > where I want the elements to go and it is lightning
> > fast compared to messing
> > with coding a page.  After all, I already have the
> > program open to create
> > the graphics in, so why not just move them around
> > the screen into how I want
> > my page to look?
> >
> > While Image Styler does allow me to save the layout
> > as html, I never do this
> > (I haven't ever tried actually, but I would imagine
> > it would make some
> > pretty funky tables to get things exactly as I have
> > in my trial layout).
> > No, it is only a tool for me to quickly decide if I
> > like how the images are
> > interacting with each other etc. I might even slip a
> > screen capture of some
> > text to simulate the text on the page.  When I am
> > done, I place a large
> > background box behind all the images and save the
> > whole works as a single
> > graphic or occasionally I might carve it up as 2 or
> > 3.
> >
> > Now as absurd as this sounds....I then throw the
> > huge graphic onto a webpage
> > and use it to show my client.   I can get feedback
> > from them without having
> > done a lot of work on the page layout at this point.
> >   I just say to them in
> > effect:  "this is what your page will look like...do
> > you want me to make
> > changes?"   If they do, then I incorporate those
> > changes into the page when
> > I create it.   I AM sure to let them know the
> > technique I've used so they
> > aren't put off if it is slow to load.
> >
> > As for someone using Photoshop to do as you
> > described...I can only imagine
> > he might have done something similar...having one
> > large graphic as the whole
> > page, with image maps in areas where there needed to
> > be hyperlinks.  VERY
> > BAD!!      (Actually I have a hosting-only client
> > that does this often,
> > yikes!)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > _________________________
> >
> > Heather Peel
> > The Net Now
> > http://thenetnow.com
> > email:  info(at)thenetnow.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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