Fireworks 2 problem

We just installed Dreamweaver 2 and Fireworks 2 on 30 computers.  I'm
teaching a course that shows how to use the tools.  Today I was teaching how
to make basic text images with fireworks and export them into .gif files to
put on Web pages.

On some of our computers when students clicked File--Export, the next window
they got was missing the left column.  It happened on 5 computers but not
the rest.  Is there a way to hide and then show the left column of the
Export window?  Just wondering...

Also, is anyone familiar with the instructors kits for Dreamweaver 2 and/or
Fireworks 2?

Thanks,
Heidi Shetzer, hshetzer(at)ix.netcom.com
University of California Santa Barbara
http://www.xlrn.ucsb.edu/~hshetzer/

-----Original Message-----
From: John Dowdell <jdowdell(at)macromedia.com>
To: Hwg-Graphics@Mail. Hwg. Org <hwg-graphics(at)mail.hwg.org>
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Fireworks 2 Illustration expert :)


>Gina Anderson wrote on April 16 of trying to draw the interleaved shape at
>> http://w3.one.net/~ginakra/logohelp.htm
>
>You're right, that is difficult in drawing programs, because in that design
>a single shape goes both above and below another shape.
>
>It might be good to start with a simpler composition, of just two ovals,
>before moving up to the finished design. This will let you test the
>principles first.
>
>In drawing tools there's a definite stacking order... you can't have one
>object both above and below another object. Therefore we'd need to actually
>have two objects which together look like one object.
>
>Here's a 1-2-3 to make a basic case of interleaved ovals:
>
>1)  Open Fireworks, new document.
>
>2)  Draw oval, give it a red charcoal stroke, no fill.
>
>3)  Clone this oval, give it a green charcoal stroke, and rotate 90
degrees.
>    (Result: Green oval will overlay red oval.)
>
>4)  Select red oval again, clone, and Bring To Front.
>    (Result: Two red ovals will sandwich the green oval.)
>
>5)  With Knife Tool, cut the top red oval at each vertice.
>    (Result: Four individual pieces of red oval on top.)
>
>6)  Now delete two kittycorner slices of red ovals.
>
>Result: The green oval will appear to wind in and out of the red oval. You
>can now group these pieces, put them on their own layer, make them a
>symbol, whatever.
>
>
>Your eventual design is more complicated in a few ways: there are more
>shapes, and some of these join together, and you're also trying to fill
>each curve with a bevel-like gradient, and there also strokes around the
>lines too.
>
>There could be a couple of ways to go:
>
>--  You might want to AutoTrace the original scan in FreeHand, and then
>import these PostScript curves to Fireworks to quickly get the desired
>geometry. (You can use other drawing tools, too, but FreeHand has one of
>the best tracing tools in the business.)
>
>--  In Fireworks 2 you can use the "Expand Strokes" option to turn your
>simple curves into filled shapes. This lets you use a normal beveled fill
>for the overall design.
>
>--  If you do actually use beveled fills for the bands themselves, and then
>add stroking, then you'll likely see internal lines on the shapes where a
>patch starts and stops. The way this is usually handled in drawing tools is
>to have a second patch, unstroked, to handle the need for both stroked and
>unstroked overlay patches.
>    (The above is likely hard to read, but I think that if you actually lay
>out the over/under design you'll see it.)
>
>
>Summary: That type of design you show is traditionally a bit difficult to
>achieve in drawing tools. Using an AutoTrace is one way to quickly build
>the complex curves, but you can also manually overlay little patches to
>give the illusion that one shape is both above and below another shape.
>
>jd
>
>
>
>
>John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US
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