Re: Programming Languages

by "Scott A. Choitz" <schoitz(at)new.rr.com>

 Date:  Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:02:01 -0500
 To:  "Tom Grenier" <tom(at)sqlman.com>,
<hwg-languages(at)hwg.org>,
<pipwax(at)attbi.com>
 References:  cjb sqlman
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Tom,

This is the one of the best answers I have seen in any of the forums or
lists that I belong to.

I would like to commend you on your response and patience that went into the
reply.

Normally, I see responses which are either lacking or overdone (like my own
in most cases).


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Grenier" <tom(at)sqlman.com>
To: <hwg-languages(at)hwg.org>; <pipwax(at)attbi.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Programming Languages


> Sorry, but I have to respond to this one also -- I think a real --
although
> perhaps a bit naive -- question deserves a serious answer.
>
> Of course you will have to -- in the end -- have the program or server
serve
> HTML to the browser.  This is the language of the web.  It is not a
programming
> language but a display or presentation language.  Built into it is
javascript,
> which is a programming language.  If you are new to web design you really
need
> skills in these two before you do anything else.  I personally hate
working in
> javascript -- but sometimes you are forced to use it (or use something
like
> Dreamweaver that will write the javascript for you -- but you still need
to
> know it to de-bug when it goes awry).
>
> Then it all depends on what you need to do and how much control you need.
You
> can write web sites in C++ or Java -- very complicated way to go but if
you
> need complete control and freedom the way to go.  But it is not trivial to
> write in these languages.  I worked for an internet travel agency a couple
of
> years back -- their site was a C++ site -- and it took five very
experienced
> programmers over a year to write the site.
>
> PHP is good for database type applications -- and you can embed it in the
> HTML.  I use perl a lot, but you have to have a server that recognizes
perl CGI
> -- and you have to have the perl output HTML -- so it's a two step
process.
>
> If you are talking high level tools (perhaps you could call them
programing
> languages) like Dreamweaver or GoLive, you can produce very nice web sites
> using these.  I find them difficult to use -- and anything they do you can
do
> using HTML -- but what you can do with them in a day would take you weeks
to
> hand code.
>
> And if you want fancy animation's or film type pages Flash is the way to
go.
> This, however, limits your audience.  Not just because not everyone has
the
> plug-in required to display it -- not all corporate sites allow Flash
through
> their firewall (my employer does not -- we can use it internally but no
Flash
> from the outside).
>
> There are still many others -- but this may give you a feel for what's out
> there.
>
> Hope this is of some help,
> Tom
>
> Stay wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 2002 at 17:43, David Pippen wrote:
> >
> > >    I am new to the list and my first question is can someone tell me
what
> > >the  best programming language is for designing web sites.
> >
> > There isn't one. What do you want to do?
> >
> > "Hi, I want to learn to ride a bike, which is the best bell to use?"
> >
> > --
> > Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/>
> > LOTUS - Let only the users suffer
>
>

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