Re: Serif fonts

by "Frank Boumphrey" <bckman(at)ix.netcom.com>

 Date:  Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:58:25 -0400
 To:  "Marc Holt" <marc(at)holtww.com>,
"Chuck Evans" <chuck.evans(at)click2learn.com>,
"html Forum" <hwg-style(at)mail.hwg.org>
 References:  asymetrix holtww
  todo: View Thread, Original
Hi,

> I've been following this discussion on fonts and thought you might like
> a little input from a Linux user. Most websites show up in Linux with
> terrible looking fonts. The reason? Because the font set installed with
> Linux doesn't contain the most common Windows fonts you are discussing.


On my Linux box I use Corel Linux and Netscape and don't have a problem
WordPerfect for Linux conttains a huge number of good fonts. If you install
this you will then have all the fonts you need.

You do bring up a point that has not been specifically mentioned, and that
is the fonts available are a function of the Client and not the Server
delivering the pages.

Here is a list of the basic fonts on various systems

WINDOWS:-
Cursive: [None]
Fantasy:[None]
 Sans-serif: Arial
Serif: Times New Roman
Monospace:Courier New

MACS:-
Cursive:[None]
Fantasy:[None]
 Sans-serif: Chicago,Geneva,Helvetica (Close match to Arial, Macs will map
Arial to this font)
Serif: New York, Palatino,Times( Close match to Times New Roman, Macs will
map Times New Roman to this font)
Monospace:Courier, Monaco

UNIX X systems:-
Cursive: Zapf Chancery
Fantasy:[None]
 Sans-serif: Helvetica, Lucida
Serif: TC Bookman,New Centuary Schoolbook,Palitino,Times
Monospace:Courier

If you use a style sheet ALWAYS include the default i.e.

h1,h2,h3{font-family:Arial, Helvetica,Sans-Serif;}
body{font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,Serif;}
pre{'courier new',courier,monospace}

Then you are sure to get some kind of reasonable display

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Holt" <marc(at)holtww.com>
To: "Chuck Evans" <chuck.evans(at)click2learn.com>; "html Forum"
<hwg-style(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Serif fonts


> Hi everyone,
> I've been following this discussion on fonts and thought you might like
> a little input from a Linux user. Most websites show up in Linux with
> terrible looking fonts. The reason? Because the font set installed with
> Linux doesn't contain the most common Windows fonts you are discussing.
>
> Although there aren't that many Linux users yet, the user base is
> growing, so it would be a good idea to start spreading the word to use
> Linux fonts in your Font description. Two good ones are 'clean'. and
> 'adobe-helvetica' (set the size to at least 12px).
>
> As Microsoft continues to try and monopolise the market, more and more
> peope are searching for alternatives. If you haven't seen Mandrake Linux
> V8.0 yet, rush out and buy a copy. The software is free, you just pay
> for the CD's. There are no licensing fees, and you have a choice of
> thousands of great programs that work better than anything MS puts out.
> The biggest bonus is the 3 website design programs you get with the
> basic installation set: Bluefish, Scream, and Quanta. Each one contains
> all the tools you need to design professional websites.
>
> And the GIMP graphics program beats PhotoShop hands down.
>
> Anyway, enough of my soap box. Just thought you'd like to know that
> there is an alternative to Microsoft, and it's much better.
>
> Cheers!
> Marc Holt
>
>
>
> Chuck Evans wrote:
>
> > Georgia is available on Win95 and up (including WinNT 4 and up). It,
like
> > Verdana, was specifically created for use as online text. The characters
are
> > wider than plain Times New Roman. But when indicating the font, always
> > provide alternatives, such as font="Georgia,Times New
Roman,Times,serif". In
> > that way, you are sure that the visitor gets some sort of serif font.
The
> > CSS would be:
> >
> > font-family : Georgia,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;
> >
> > -Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dale [mailto:dale(at)hiwaay.net]
> >
> > My client insists on having a serif font for the body of the text on her
> > website.  I always use sans-serif fonts on my webpages.  Does anybody
have
> > any suggestions for a nice looking, easy to read serif font that is
> > available on most PC's???
>
>
> --
> Cheers!
> Marc Holt Managing Director, Holt WorldWide Co Ltd
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