RE: Coldfusion vs ...

I have been told on several occasions by CF and ASP developers that a
good analogy would be:

"Cold Fusion is the "velcro" of web development. Very fast to develop,
very easy to use, but if you are in for the long haul and are going to
need it to scale infinitely, CF is not the way to go. Departmental
websites, small internet websites (under 10,000 hits a day) are fine in
CF. But large scale e-commerce, high traffic sites, do not do well in
CF."

Everytime I get to a site that is run on CF, it is pretty slow.

I compare it to Access Data Pages and ASP. They both perform the same
functions (web interface to db) but the Access versions are always
slower and if you look at the code behind it, you can see why, there is
a lot of stuff going on that is not needed. Hundreds of lines of extra
code. I could perform the same functions in 50 lines that an Access Data
Page does in a couple hundred.

I would not use any "write and application using point and click" to
develop an application that was business related.

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Mike Carlson
http://www.domitianx.com
domitianx(at)domitianx.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]
On Behalf Of Jeff Rankin
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 7:01 AM
To: Klaas De Waele; hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
Subject: RE: Coldfusion vs ...


Cold Fusion is a server-side development environment consisting of a
server component that integrates with a web server, a markup language
that integrates with HTML (and looks alot like it), and a fairly nice
IDE (it's a lot like Homesite). The server component is available for
Windows Server platforms, Solaris, HP-UX, and Linux.

Cold Fusion is a very well-integrated environment. The markup language
is fairly easy to learn but very powerful. It works well with SQL
Server, Oracle, and many other database platforms. Because of these
reasons, our developers like it much more than Microsoft's alternative
(ASP).

I'm not sure about the cost, as I don't have to handle the acquisition.

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Jeff Rankin     jrankin(at)oneil.com
Lead Publications Programmer
O'Neil & Associates, Inc.
http://www.oneil.com/
937.461.1602 x 3504
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org 
> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Klaas De Waele
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 5:34 AM
> To: 'hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org'
> Subject: Coldfusion vs ...
>
>
> A quick question to all of you.
>
> We've just lost a job with a database management tool website to a 
> competitor.  We thought we had a nice and cheap solution (as in 
> Chrysler Stratus Cabrio cheap) but this other guy we don't know 
> offered it for a lower price using ColdFusion.
>
> What I'm looking for is someone who can explain me the benefits of 
> ColdFusion over ASP or the likes.  I would say if you need a 
> ColdFusion server and expensive creation tools you'd go past the proce

> of ASP, since I'm using just Notepad ad Editpad to create my apps.
>
> So...
> - what's cold fusion?
> - how is working with it
> - prices for development in relation to ASP (factors).
>
>
> - Kayjey -

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