Re: site design II - databasing it

PHP and mySQL are free.  Free as in free speech *and* free as in free beer.
Generally, hosting companies charge less for accounts running on Linux with
Apache (oh, they're both free too).  In many cases these provide PHP and
mySQL as part of the package.  Perl is ubiquitous as well.  There are also
companies that provide free hosting and use these technologies.

Don't let yourself be talked into a proprietary system when there's a valid
alternative.  Yes, some may say I'm sneering, but the fact is a company
controls CF.  They can change or pull the plug any time they want.  PHP and
mySQL are supported by a community of developers, most of whom are actually
using the technologies.  I feel much safer with that.  I also have found PHP
extremely easy to learn, well supported with newsgroups, websites, email
lists and user groups, fast, secure, and efficient.  Its syntax is similar
to C and Java, so you're also getting a bit of an introduction to real
programming.

For more info on mySQL:
http://www.mysql.com/information/index.html

For more info on PHP:
http://www.php.net/

-Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Allred" <allred(at)its.state.ms.us>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>; <owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: site design II - databasing it


> Actually, there is a host that provides "free" hosting for CF sites. Mike?
> You want to chime in with the site? I don't have it handy.
>
> One other correction. CF does not require NT Server. Although, as I
> understand it, the free version will only run on NT, the more expensive
> (read Enterprise class) versions will run on NT, Solaris, HP/UX, and
Linux.
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> I'm not sure that sneering at "proprietary" software is helpful to people
> considering their options. Some people definitely prefer free/open-source
> solutions. Others appreciate the security and support plans offered by
> established companies. There are ups and downs to both sides of the
> equation.
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> If I recall the start of this thread right, the requestor was looking for
> low-cost solutions. I wish I could waste the bandwidth to copy a message
> posted on the CF-Talk list yesterday. One of the top-end developers, who
> has used both ASP and CF since each was introduced, outlined a whole
series
> of costs that one should factor into a software/platform decision.
> Sometimes "free" is not so free, if the solution produces a steeper
> learning curve and forestalls the performance of productive work. If
anyone
> would like to read it (it's really good!), let me know off list, and I'll
> send you a copy.
>
> Regards,
> --John
>
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>                     jalal
>                     <the_jalal(at)yahoo.c        To:     Chris Badouin
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> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:55:03 -0700, Chris Badouin wrote:
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> >J-
> >Well, you are not correct in your statement. Cold Fusion offers several
> >solutions for getting started and as far as hosting goes, there a Cold
> >Fusion "hosting" facilities all over. prices range from $20 and up.
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> Right, like I said, expensive.... plus extra for the database in the
> background.
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> Propreitary solutions are nearly always more expensive, and you have to
> pay for the tools as well.
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>            -- jalal --
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