RE: site design II - databasing it

Hi John and fellow list members,

I was the original poster and, like you, have followed the debate with
interest.  So far, the score is tied at 50-50!

I would love to read that message you referred to.  I don't mind paying to
get the job done right - but I need to know my options before I start so
that I don't waste time and money.

Cash is a major issue at the moment because we recently relocated and used
up all our reserves.  The database is important - we need to simplify both
the ordering process as well as keeping track of monthly royalty payments.
At the moment, both processes are done manually and, given the small list of
products and authors, this is tolerable (sort of).

We know both lists will grow ... soon.  It is therefore important to set up
the database now rather than try and do it when we have no time and a lot of
work to do!

I believe in the KISS principle - but sometimes that does not mean "low/no
cost", as you pointed out.  I have no issues with proprietary solutions -
but I am aware that Access does present problems in terms of access speed
when used on-line.  That was why I sought alternatives.  Free is nice (and
easy on the hip nerve) and the options mentioned do give me a chance to
develop some much-needed skills in on-line database development.  It is
equally true that 'time is money' and I can't afford to waste either ...
hence the tied result!

By the way, thanks to everyone who has supplied suggestions so far.  I do
appreciate your comments.  Feel free to keep posting on this issue, it
certainly is one that never seems to go away!

Henry John & Amy Boleszny
 Partners
 Sea Eagle Publications
 ABN 24 604 217 122

E-mail:         seaeagle(at)one.net.au
Web:           http://www.seaeagle.aunz.com/
Phone/Fax:  (07) 5529 2661
Mail/Locale: 1/9 Possum Court, Coombabah QLD 4216, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: John Allred [SMTP:allred(at)its.state.ms.us]
Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2000 6:02 AM
To: hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org; owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
Subject: RE: site design II - databasing it

Actually, there is a host that provides "free" hosting for CF sites. Mike?
You want to chime in with the site? I don't have it handy.

One other correction. CF does not require NT Server. Although, as I
understand it, the free version will only run on NT, the more expensive
(read Enterprise class) versions will run on NT, Solaris, HP/UX, and Linux.

I'm not sure that sneering at "proprietary" software is helpful to people
considering their options. Some people definitely prefer free/open-source
solutions. Others appreciate the security and support plans offered by
established companies. There are ups and downs to both sides of the
equation.

If I recall the start of this thread right, the requestor was looking for
low-cost solutions. I wish I could waste the bandwidth to copy a message
posted on the CF-Talk list yesterday. One of the top-end developers, who
has used both ASP and CF since each was introduced, outlined a whole series
of costs that one should factor into a software/platform decision.
Sometimes "free" is not so free, if the solution produces a steeper
learning curve and forestalls the performance of productive work. If anyone
would like to read it (it's really good!), let me know off list, and I'll
send you a copy.

Regards,
--John




                    jalal
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                    08/30/2000 03:34
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:55:03 -0700, Chris Badouin wrote:

>
>J-
>Well, you are not correct in your statement. Cold Fusion offers several
>solutions for getting started and as far as hosting goes, there a Cold
>Fusion "hosting" facilities all over. prices range from $20 and up.
>
>

Right, like I said, expensive.... plus extra for the database in the
background.

Propreitary solutions are nearly always more expensive, and you have to
pay for the tools as well.

           -- jalal --

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