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I know the reputation of NN4 as a great browser to find HTML errors in is well-deserved - for HTML older than XHTML 1.0 Strict. I think the reason you'll see more and more designers begin to take the opposite stance is that NN4 is on the opposite side of that fence when you have to use CSS to handle the presentation of your code. NN4 then becomes a browser than shows errors where none exist, scattering properly placed elements across the pages like tossed puzzle pieces. We all know the issues involved in coding DHTML for at least 2 different DOMs. Now, I am having to code 2 different site templates and sometimes 2 different copies of the pages to handle NN4. Although I am practically in awe of a browser than can last years in an environment where 6 months can represent a generation of software advancement, and this with only minor version changes, NN4 is becoming a serious liability when coding for modern commercial sites. I'm don't want to turn this into a shouting match, either. Like it or not, NN4 isn't going away this year, and I am not trying to make the point that it should. I am, however, stating that NN4's usefulness in our circles as a fine debugging tool is somewhat limited a world where a site doesn't use a single HTML table for layout. HTML Tidy does a better job nowadays, and it's easy to integrate it with most editors and run ongoing validation sweeps...:). No offense meant, cbirds...:). D ----- Original Message ----- From: <cbirds(at)earthlink.net> Andrew McFarland hunted and pecked out this message on 4/21/2002 6:15 PM >Well, there's Netscape 4, quite possibly the worst browser there is. Tsk tsk, not on the Mac it isn't. In fact, if I use that to code, every other browser works perfectly even if I had never checked it. It's the lightest most stable and least intrusive of all the browsers as well as the most easy to troubleshoot. Not meaning to start a war here, but just my opinion. I put webmaster email on every page I put out there and have never had a complaint.
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