Re: very basic database questions

Hi, Elizabeth.
I liked your
> My needs are not complicated and at this point I'd much rather learn just
> enough to get the job done and concentrate on becoming an expert at some
> other time -- if that is possible.

I know *exactly* how you feel.  If you'd like, take a look at
http://www.squishedmosquito.com/ .  We are starting a group called EBUG
(Escapade Beta Users Group) and we'll be offering free webspace, MySQL and
ESP tools for people just like you.  If this is something that interests
you, let me know.  Escapade will do everything you want and it is *much*
simpler to learn than PHP.  It is perfect for first-time database/scripting
developers.

Karin

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Karin Ransdell  kransdell(at)squishedmosquito.com
Escapade Development Team
Squished Mosquito, Inc.
http://www.squishedmosquito.com  or  http://www.escapade.org
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----- Original Message -----
From: mamaduckie <mamaduckie(at)home.com>
To: Bryan Bateman <batemanb(at)home.com>
Cc: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: very basic database questions


> I can get PHP4 on request -- so I will request it.
>
> No, I'm not comfortable with PHP.  I'm not comfortable with PHP, MySQL, or
> any aspect of databases.  I am a blank slate :-)
>
> My needs are not complicated and at this point I'd much rather learn just
> enough to get the job done and concentrate on becoming an expert at some
> other time -- if that is possible.
>
> Is there a WYSIWYG equivalent for databases?  I'd really like to know more
> -- but right now quick and dirty is what I need.
>
> ~Elizabeth
> (BTW, this is for my own website, not a hack job for someone else)
>
> At 07:36 AM 12/2/00 +0000, Bryan Bateman wrote:
> >Lets talk more about the admin tools that the hosting environment offers.
> >It is sometimes eaiser to explain with the tool at hand.
> >MS Access is ok to use for protyping your tables, however there are other
> >ways to accomplish your goals.
> >
> >Are you comfortable with PHP?  If you can get PHP4 environment do so.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mamaduckie" <mamaduckie(at)home.com>
> >To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 8:05 AM
> >Subject: very basic database questions
> >
> >
> > > Please help.  I'm drowning in a sea of unknowns.
> > >
> > > I'd like to convert part of my site to database (away from static
> > > html).  My server supports PHP3 and 4 and MySQL.  These seem like
> >challenge
> > > enough and I don't know if I'm up to it because I can't even seem to
> >figure
> > > out how to build the tables.
> > >
> > > MS Access has been mentioned within my hearing a few times -- but I
don't
> > > have the program nor the money to buy it.  Is there another,
preferably
> > > free, program to help me build my tables.  Do I need a program at all?
> >Can
> > > I build them by hand?
> > >
> > > Obviously I'm very ignorant on the subject.  I've read part of the SQL
for
> > > Dummies book.  The parts that I did understand make it all seem very
> > > logical.  I think I have a bit of a handle on how to structure the
tables
> > > and what information I need in which tables.  But how to build them?
Am I
> > > looking at this wrong?  Can it possibly be so difficult?
> > >
> > > Grateful for any advice or good tutorials or other sources of
information.
> > >
> > > ~E
> > >

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