Re: Ordered Lists

by "Frank Boumphrey" <bckman(at)ix.netcom.com>

Date:	Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:06:49 -0400
To:	"Cindy Stanley, SSS WebWorks" <stanleysupport(at)prodigy.net>, <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
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> and you will validate by opting *not* to use the end li tag, which my
> documents show that this is optional. Not arguing with you, just trying to
> figure this out.

optional means just that. in SGML documents, of which HTML 4.0 is a document
type you can either put them in or leave them out.

Also both opening and closing head and body tags are optional, so

<html><title>Minimal Document</title></html>

Is the briefest HTML document you can have, but a browser will read the DTD
and add the tags that you ommitted. It will build a document that says:

<html><head><title>Minimal Document</title></head><body></body></html>

even though you as an author did not put in these tags.

Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Stanley, SSS WebWorks" <stanleysupport(at)prodigy.net>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Ordered Lists


> Cindy Stanley wrote:
>
> >> <li> is a singleton tag, requiring no closing. The end tag is optional.
> >> Remove all your </li> and the document will validate under your
> >transitional doctype.
>
>
> From: Frank Boumphrey <bckman(at)ix.netcom.com>
> >Actually the above is not a problem you are allowed to close tags if you
> >want (and IMO you shoud)
>
> I agree, but, if you leave the </li>'s in the document, it will *not*
> validate. If you take them out, it *will* validate, under the transitional
> doctype she is using. Something similar will happen when dealing with the
> <p> elements also.
>
> >Your problem is that you are directly nesting ordered lists
> >
> ><ol>
> ><li><a href="Camping/index">Camping</a></li>
> > <ol>
> > <li><a href="Camping/wawbeek">Camp Wawbeek</a></li>
> >
> >The spec lays out that the only allowed content of an ordered list is an
li
> >element
>
> true about the specs... okay, so the above shows that you are using a ol
> element w/in a ol element, and the only element legal w/in the ol is the
li
> element. I really never looked at it that way when dealing w/ nested ol's.
> Now, that makes sense, but wonder what the results of using my suggestion
> would present?
>
> ><ol>
> ><li><a href="Camping/index">Camping</a></li>
> ><li>
> > <ol>
> > <li><a href="Camping/wawbeek">Camp Wawbeek</a></li>
> >
> >(Big Snip)
> > </ol>
> ></li>
> ></ol>
> >
> >And you will validate.
>
> and you will validate by opting *not* to use the end li tag, which my
> documents show that this is optional. Not arguing with you, just trying to
> figure this out.
>
> --
> Cindy K. Stanley, SSS
> Stanley Support Service
>

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