Re: Site Submission Software

Dear Jim and List,

Thank you for your very informative post.  That is exactly what I was
looking for in a software review.  Guess I'll have to start saving pennies.

Sincerely,
Elizabeth M. Lukan
President
High Aspirations, Inc.
http://www.highaspirationsinc.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Smith" <jimsmith(at)blarneystone.com>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: Site Submission Software


> >
> > We found SubmitWolf.  It fits our budget and looks pretty good.
> > Does anyone use it?  Any opinions?
> >
> Elizabeth and List,
> I tried SubmitWolf's trial version and it sorta seemed to be ok. The trial
> version only allowed me to register with a small limited number of search
> engines. Plus, as you said, the $95 price tag fit a small shop's budget
much
> better than the higher ones so about a year ago, I bought it.
>
> After a couple of weeks, I realized that I made a mistake. As Lauri
> wondered, those "hand-picked" SE & directories are mostly marketing fluff.
> Fortunately (???) I used my email address instead of the clients in
> contacting SEs. A year later I'm still getting lots of spam from the few
> clients that I tried it on. I felt like the product was not based upon
solid
> proven techniques for search engine placement but rather upon dumping
enough
> notifications out there that something was bound to stick. I preferred a
> more methodical technique of ever-improving listings.
>
> After 2-3 weeks when I realized that the full version wasn't going to meet
> my needs, I contacted the SubmitWolf company (I believe they are located
in
> Australia). I told them of my dis-satisfaction and asked if they had a 30
> moneyback guarantee or anything. They said that once I hand over the
money,
> there is no refund... that I should have made my decision from the
> crippleware <sigh>. Not a good way to win goodwill!
>
> Since then, I've only used it for one client recently that was very
> interested in getting his site out to thousands of search engines in spite
> of my warnings of junk email and lack of placements, etc. However, most of
> my clients are looking more for quality listings than quantity.
>
> Anyway, after recovering from a bad case of the grumbles, I reluctantly
> turned SubmitWolf into shelfware and moved on. I saved my money and a
little
> bit later, bought WebPosition Gold. I found it to be just what I was
looking
> for and it meets my needs much better. It allows me to create impressive
> reports for my clients. It keeps me updated on good/bad/uglies in the
world
> of search engines. It keeps track of the position of searches and gives me
> sane advice on how frequently to re-submit for maximum impact without
> upsetting the Search engines. The only drawback is that it cost me around
> $350 (going from a year-old painful memory <g>, so don't quote me on
that).
> I actually started with their standard edition for less than half that
> price. But, since I could only use their standard version on five
websites,
> it didn't take me long to realize that I needed to upgrade to the full
> unlimited version. FWIW, I much prefer it to other products I've looked at
> and don't regret the investment. And, yes... I made sure it was guaranteed
> before I bought it! It is 100% guaranteed for 45 days!
>
> My summary (finally, huh? <grin>) is that if you are looking to pound lots
> of listings without regard for the quality of the listing, grab something
> like SubmitWolf (hmmm... I got one for sale <joking>). If you want to have
a
> full-blown package with everything you need in order to monitor and
improve
> your clients ratings with search engines, save gobs of those pennies and
get
> WebPosition Gold. Their support and information alone is valuable in
> learning lots about the slippery world of Search Engine ratings.
>
> The usual disclaimer: I don't make any money from promoting nor cursing
> either company. Just my opinions and yours may vary. Hope it helps!
>
> Regards,
> Jim Smith
>
>

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