Re: Frames or no frames

One can put broad ranging meta for the whole site in the frames page to
combat this. This also saves on updating meta throughout the site. I know
that there are search engines that don't use meta, but just crawl the pages,
but depending on the requirements, excluding these engines can be okay.

Another method (which requires more work for updating) is to have each
section open in a new frames page (with the meta for each section contained
therein), replacing the current frames page. This would allow you to have a
different framed look for each section, and section-speceific meta. Also, if
you put "no index" in the robots tag on each of the framed pages (just in
case), it would ensure that all users would be led to a framed page, and not
to an orphaned page that's supposed to be framed.

Tamara.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pippen" <pipwax(at)attbi.com>
To: <j.go(at)spinweb.ph>; <hwg-techniques(at)mail.hwg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: Frames or no frames


> In my opinion the largest thing to think about when using frames is some
> search engines won't crawl framed pages.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Jonathan Go
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:21 PM
> To: hwg-techniques(at)mail.hwg.org
> Subject: Frames or no frames
>
>
> Hi... I'm currently doing a site and thinking of using flash for the
> navigation menu.  If I do that I need to do the page using frames.
> Would appreciate your comments on using frames.  Can you give me the
> pros and cons based on your experiences?
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]
> On Behalf Of Kid Stevens
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:59 AM
> To: hwg-techniques(at)mail.hwg.org
> Subject: RE: New Browser Window Link problem
>
> That is very clean code.  It passes the Java engine tests I run for
> compatibility reasons.
>
> As the words of John Woram fell from above I was tickled at 7:19 PM
> -0400
> on 7/8/02:
> >I sent a few suggestions earlier about how to open a maxed window, but
> >by accident it went to Jeremy only. But having seen the other
> >responses, I'm going to toss in my 2-cents worth.
> >
> >First, I don't think opening a new window "breaks" the Back (history)
> >button -- it's a new window -- it doesn't *have* any history. If the
> >new window contains a link to another page, then the Back button will
> >work on that page, and all subsequent pages. IOW, it's not broken.
> >
> >Next, the question was about how to open a new window at maximum size,
> >not "Is it a good idea to open a new window?" The answer to the last
> >question is "It depends." If there's a good reason to open a new
> >window, you can provide the means to close it again. Or whatever. So,
> >here's a few ways to open a maximized window:
> >
> >1.
> >function maxSize()
> >{
> >maxWindow=window.open('FILENAME.HTM');
> >maxWindow.moveTo(0,0);
> >maxWindow.resizeTo(screen.width, screen.height);
> >}
> >
> >2.
> >function maxSize()
> >{
> >maxWindow=window.open('FILENAME.HTM'), "", "fullscreen=yes");
> >}
> >
> >The first one opens a maxed window with the menu bars, etc. at the
> >top. The second one fills the entire screen. Replace 'FILENAME.HTM'
> >with the name of the file you want to open.
> >
> > Or,
> >
> >3. Put these lines into the JavaScript section in the head of the file
> >you want to open:
> >
> >window.moveTo(0,0);
> >window.resizeTo(screen.width, screen.height);
> >
> >In this case, the back button works fine.
> >
> >John Woram
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Kid Stevens
>
> "A democracy is a sheep and two wolves deciding on what to have for
> lunch.
> Freedom is a well armed sheep contesting the results of the decision."
>  - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>

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