Re: Revisited Download Time?

Missy;

I agree with your comments on using other people's scripts -- that is
exactly what comes into play here as well.  And you are right, there are
many people who really don't know about and don't care to know about the
down and dirty programming side. They just want to know that they will have
a good looking site that will get results.  And, of course, keeping the cost
in line.

Thanks  for the comments!

Teajai Kimsey
Managing Partner
Beyond Web Design
www.bwdesignservices.com
316.944.8700
Websites From Concept to Completion and Beyond
----- Original Message -----
From: "Missy Scott" <mbscott(at)d-assistance.com>
To: "Teajai Kimsey" <tkimsey(at)budgetwebsitedesign.com>;
<hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Revisited Download Time?


> TJ,
>
> I'm not having any trouble with download time, etc.  The menu looks fine.
> I'm on IE6, though.  Had a crash recently and have yet to reinstall other
> browsers to test.
>
> I would like to comment regarding using other people's scripts in your
> applications.  I think as long as you leave the credit in the code, what's
> the big deal?  If I were to write a script and offer it for free as long
as
> you leave the copyright notice intact, I would expect others to come
along
> and take it.
>
> I'm also up-front with my clients on this.  I say, "OK, I can take a month
> and write this application for you or I can get a free one and customize
it
> to your needs.  In the first instance, I'll own copyright on the
application
> and it'll take a month.  In the second, someone else will own copyright
and
> it'll take two days.  Your choice."  I once did an entire intranet for
> someone that way.
>
> I don't know what kind of clients you guys all have, but mine walk through
> the door with budgets.  My clients could care less about my abilities
(most
> don't understand what php or mysql is).  They want a site that fits in
their
> budget, a designer who's honest with them, and someone who can be reached
> for questions and updates after the site is done.  They don't care who
wrote
> the original application, only that they have license to use it legally
and
> that it works and fits in with their website.
>
> Let us know how it goes!
>
> Missy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Teajai Kimsey
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 8:51 AM
> To: hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> Subject: Revisited Download Time?
>
>
> Thank you all for the input.  The important questions are at the top, the
> debate is at the bottom.  :)
>
> Based on the responses I eliminated the scrolling text on the left (at the
> top level only for the purposes of this demonstration) to see if that will
> speed up the process.  Also, could it be that we have left the html
version
> of the index online as a redirct (because of search engines) and the two
> could be fighting it out?  If you care to check again and let me know, the
> web address follows again.
>
> I also got some messages about the menu bunching up.  For us, it worked
> pretty good in netscape 4.7 so we don't understand why it's bunching in
6.2
> and 7.0  (and maybe other versions newer than 4.7) Which brings me to a
> concern.  Don't AOL users have a netscape browser?  And are they seeing it
> the same way?
> http://www.bwdesignservices.com
>
> So... could anyone with Netscape and / or AOL please look and see what is
> going on with the bunching?  I need a variety of browser versions so I can
> determine how much of the market is potentially seeing that bunched up
> effect.
>
> As for the issue of the scripts being from someone else, here's my
thinking,
> right, wrong or indifferent: As a business owner is it worth my money to
> pull an employee off of another project for the time it takes to write
that
> script themselves when I can use something that is already written and
save
> time ($).  My other projects will speak as well for my company abilities
as
> my business page so I feel that the wide range of abilities is already
> shown.  Plus, some of my customers do come in with a budget in mind and
want
> some "cool" effects, so when we demonstrate those and show them how
> inexpensive it is we have added to the project at very little additional
> cost (sell them something, and sell them something else).  Just my 2 cents
> and I appreciate the comments from several of you on the subject.
>
> Thanks for all of the input thus far.  It is really helping.
>
> Teajai Kimsey
> Managing Partner
> Beyond Web Design
> www.bwdesignservices.com
> 316.944.8700
> Websites From Concept to Completion and Beyond
>
>
>

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