Re: Repeat background

Kym,

You are propogating an untruth, at least partially. While MSIE may allow for
sloppy code, you are conveniently forgetting that Netscape is riddled with
proprietary code, non-support for industry standards, and a nasty habit of
completely trashing a page that renders properly in ANY OTHER
standards-compliant (or nearly-compliant) browser. I have just recently
completed the launch of a new site that uses extensive CSS/HTML4 technology.
It works as expected in MSIE 4.x, MSIE 5.x, AOL 4, AOL 5, Opera 4.x, and
Netscape 6/Mozilla betas. Netscape 4.x, on the other hand (including the
latest version, 4.73), completely trashes the page layout. THIS is better?
According to your comments, it would seem that's what you think.

I've written an alternate version of the site that uses HTML3 to display
ALMOST identical pages for browsers unable to properly display
CSS/HTML4-coded pages. Netscape 4 works great there. So this begs the
question: if Netscape is so much better, why is it that it can't display
pages that other browsers can, nor a two-year-old standard such as HTML4 and
CSS1? Are you implying that these pages in question are all coded sloppily,
and that all browsers EXCEPT Netscape render sloppy code? Tsk tsk. That's
not true, and that's not the case.

Before passing judgement about one browser or another, make sure that what
the browser is attempting to render is "legal code" (or as close to it as
possible), and then judge the browser accordingly. I personally like MSIE,
Opera, and the new Netscape 6/Mozilla betas roughly equally. Each has
benefits over the others, as well as drawbacks. But overall, they all work
and render about the same. As for Netscape 4.x, I can't think of any one
thing more deserving a quick and timely death.

Just my 2c.
Kehvan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kym Jones" <kjones(at)adam.com.au>
To: "Penny White" <penny(at)redsquare.com.au>; "David Holm"
<david.holm(at)rivcom.net>; "Denise Sergent" <dser5(at)hotmail.com>;
<hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 03:49
Subject: RE: Repeat background


>
>
> Well if it was intended as a joke, smiley faces are cheap
>
> BUT seriously, how often do you see help requests posted to the list that
> say..."it works just fine in IE but not in Netscape ?
>
> Why is this so ? ...because, IE will let you get away with sloppy code and
> Netscape won't. If you code for Netscape, you can pretty much bet it will
> work as you want, where you want.
>
> All browsers have their faults, no doubt about that, but I do get tired of
> people blaming browsers for their own shortcomings.
>
> BTW..it's winter down here and the *last* thing I need now is a "chill
> pill" ...LOL...
>
> Anyone for a nice hot coffee ? :))))))
>
> Kym
>
>
>
>
> At 03:41 PM 07/19/2000 , Penny White wrote:
> >Kym..I think it was a joke - lighthearted, something that lots of us
think
> >sometimes but never waste other ppls inboxs by actually saying....btw,
chill
> >pills are going cheap these days!
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> >> [mailto:owner-hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org]On Behalf Of Kym Jones
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2000 13:50
> >> To: David Holm; Denise Sergent; hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> >> Subject: Re: Repeat background
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes good idea...delete Netscape, design only for IE, write all the
sloppy
> >> code you like and the professional designers of this world will happily
> >> take your customers. In fact, you can send me your client list if
> >> you like :)
> >>
> >> Terrific idea!!!
> >>
> >> What a ridiculous statement!
> >>
> >> Kym
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 11:22 AM 07/19/2000 , David Holm wrote:
> >> >Delete Netscape, works every time
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Denise Sergent" <dser5(at)hotmail.com>
> >> >To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:37 PM
> >> >Subject: Repeat background
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >: Will someone please refresh my memory on how to keep a background
image
> >> >from
> >> >: repeating in the td cells on Netscape? I tried td background=0 but
it
> >> >: doesn't always work...
> >> >:
> >> >: Thanks,
> >> >: Denise
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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