Re: Frames

Concidering the fact you can throw in some javascript
to alway make sure the top frame is included with the
content that is selected. That would help Tim's
therory of not being able to index or pass URL or send
a freind the link. The only problem I can see if the
amount of extra work it would take to make the content
page printable. If your site is targeting th eprint
version that is. Other then that I agrea frames are
nice, easy, and give a good look for most. I can pass
along th etwo or three lines of code needed for the
javascript if you all can help me find a solution to
the print version of a framed site.. ;)
Have fun,
Steve

--- Klaas De Waele <klaas(at)gracegraphics.be> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> 
> I'm getting a bit down of all those people around
> here that hate frames.  If
> for once and for all you can express your thoughts
> WHY frames are bad (on
> itself, not just because some codewriter doesn't
> think about the features
> and demands and writes code that will eventually
> result in 'unexpected'
> frame behaviour) please do so now.  I've used frames
> in virtually every site
> I ever made, never ran into problems.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned:
> 
> GOOD...
> - Easy (very) to have navigation
> - No problem having to scroll up to the navigation
> again after reading all
> the content
> - Nice to have multi-level navigation
> - Navigation changes?  Only one thing to change and
> upload.
> 
> NOT SO GOOD...
> - You have to think before doing (oh no, that really
> puts me off ;) )
> - Some browsers don't support it*
> - Hard to make pixel-precise layouts that work
> across browsers
> - Reveal some specific problems with the respective
> browsers (Mozilla e.g.)
> 
> *I have my site put up with an intro page with
> frames and noframes content.
> The noframes content even has some navigation and
> subpages without frames as
> an introduction.  Guess what... last month in total
> had 3399 visits on that
> first page... 0,29% had non-frames capable browsers.
>  Visitors came back
> generally 3 times a month.  If these non-frames
> capable boys only came over
> once, it means of 1130 visits I miss 10 of them,
> 1,13%.  I won't be changing
> a thing for them unhappy few, to be honest.
> 
> 
> - Kayjey -
> http://www.fiatcoupe.net
> 
> 


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