RE: Copying web sites

Hi all,

I echo the sentiments of everyone so far....sheesh! where do these folks 
get off, and what in some pink cloud land, makes them think that they'll 
actually go undetected ?

Somebody commented on their "logo" in the top left hand corner and that 
really is a work of art LOL...Somebody knows how to use Wordart out of 
Office haha...it would be funny were it not so pathetic.

There was also a comment suggesting that perhaps it was not a wise thing to 
contact these folks and point out the "error of their ways", forwarding 
Susan's email and I have to agree. Aside from the "possibility" that Susan 
is the "crook" here..which I am sure she's not...I think it might have been 
better to wait until she has decided her course of action before notifying 
them that they've been caught out.

I think it's wonderful that folks here will "go in to bat" for one another, 
but I think in this instance, it might have been better to wait or to at 
least get permission to wade in with guns blazing.

Just my two cents....

.....and Susan, if you need canonfire, just say the word, and I shall fire 
off a salvo or two myself :)

Good luck with this mess.

Kym



At 10:47 AM 8/06/2001 -0400, Chris Kasper wrote:
>Hello everyone!
>
>First of all - Susan, I am sorry to see this happen to anyone ... especially
>on such a nice site.
>
>Secondly - Good suggestion, John, about putting the authorship and copyright
>notices in a comment tag at the top of each page. I would take that a step
>further. OBVIOUSLY, since the thief didn't even bother to change the names
>of the graphics, s/he did not pore over the code that well. I would insert
>the comment line at various, random spots throughout every page. I bet had
>Susan done that on this site, you would be able to see her name in the
>stolen source.
>
>Hindsight is 20/20, though, and we should all learn from this ...
>
>Lastly, the top line of the source code on the home page of the stolen site
>is:
>
>      <!-- saved from url=(0022)http://internet.e-mail -->
>
>I have never seen this EXCEPT when someone saves a page off of the internet
>- and never in a form like this. Does anyone know what the URL in the line
>means or how to read it? Is it anything Susan can use on her behalf?
>
>
>Chris M. Kasper
>Associate Web Engineer
>The SoftAd Group, Inc.
>
>"I love California; I practically grew up in Phoenix." -- Vice President Dan
>Quayle
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 07:45:19 -0400
> > From: "John Foliot - Another 4:00 AM Web Thing" <foliot(at)fouram.com>
> > Subject: RE: Copying web sites
> >
> > Susan,
> >
> > This sucks.  Hopefully all will be resolved without having to get a
>lawyer,
> > but it suggests to all that taking copyright issues seriously is an issue
>we
> > all should be aware of (sorry it's your pain used to illustrate the
>point).
> >
> > As a matter of course, I include a <!-- comment --> at the top of each
>page
> > developed which declares authorship and copyright notice. (see:
> > www.littlerascalranch.com - view source) As well, copyright is always
> > visibly included on each page.  While it will never stop blatant theives,
>it
> > says "I'm watching, this is mine, if you use it you are breaking the law".
> > The old adage of "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" comes
>to
> > mind.
> >
> > Susan, I'm sure I speak for most members of this list when I wish you
>well,
> > and hope that things do get resolved.  Lean on this list, and let us know
> > the outcome.
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > John Foliot
> > Another 4:00 AM Web Thing / Bytown Internet
> >
> >
> >> - -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org [mailto:owner-hwg-business(at)hwg.org]On
> >> Behalf Of Susan Walsh
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:34 PM
> >> To: hwg-business(at)hwg.org
> >> Subject: Copying web sites
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have a client that I designed a web site for earlier in the year.
>Today,
> >> I found out that one of their competitors copied the site.  Literally,
>they
> >> are using my graphics, HTML, stylesheets, ticker etc.  When I view
>source,
> >> they didn't even bother to change the name of the files.
> >>
> >> My client did not put a copyright on their web pages, but in this
> >> circumstance, I don't think it matters.  I think this is best illustrated
>by
> >> looking at the two sites.
> >>
> >> The site I designed: http://www.bestratefunding.com
> >>
> >> The site that copied: http://www.loanleaders.com
> >>
> >> These people have blatently stolen my graphics, forms, etc.  What can I
>do?
> >> I am really upset about this.  Thank you in advance!
> >>
> >> Susan Walsh


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