Okee-dokee, so now it's a political discussion?  ;o)

I suppose if I'm forcing you to vote Republican, so be it.  I suppose if I
support gun control I'm anti-American and anti-freedom?  And, therefore,
this has gone way off topic.

Now...more on topic...Does anyone have a resource that lists all of the ISPs
available in the US?  I know the names of some of the big ones, but I'm
wondering if there's a list that someone put together somewhere?

TIA,

Maureen


-----Original Message-----
From: Angel One [mailto:angelone(at)angelonearth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:15 PM
To: hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
Subject: Re: off-topic - spam was Re: ads done well


OK once again - at the risk of p***ing some people off -  I'm going to put
in my .5 cents worth. Earthlink/sprint sucks for more than one reason: they
support anti-american (& anti freedom) groups like gun control inc. (now
called something else but still trying to take away my freedom to protect
myself). I know some of the folks *outside* of the U.S. will think of that
as a reason to USE them..........& hey Lois that was *not* directed at you
<grin> (just in case you wondered)
    So if you support/use sprint/earthlink you are forcing me to vote
Republican......(much as I hate it)
    Just thought users should know.
          Paul

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barlow, Maureen (REI)" <maureen.barlow(at)reed-elsevier.com>
To: <hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: off-topic - spam was Re: ads done well


> I use Earthlink for my home ISP, so I'm very interested in this
discussion!
>
> I haven't heard of spam problems regarding Earthlink, but then again I 
> am located in the US.  My spam nightmares usually involve my Yahoo 
> email account.
>
> My question is due to my newbie-ness when it comes to spam (other than
being
> the unfortunate receiver of such).  What exactly is the problem with 
> spam through an ISP (with Earthlink as an example)?  Is it that people 
> are fraudulently using it to send spam?  Sorry if this sounds like a 
> stupid question!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Maureen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathy Wheeler [mailto:kathyw(at)home.albury.net.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:04 PM
> To: hwg-techniques(at)hwg.org
> Subject: off-topic - spam was Re: ads done well
>
>
> Sorry if this is off-topic, but spam effects us all one way or 
> another.
>
> > Kathy, I am wondering how they can block a wholesale ISP like that??
>
> In Australia we have legislation that requires ISP's to block certain 
> sources of spam if users complain. The initial block was removed when 
> earthlink announced they were going to make an effort to stop 
> spammers, but re-instated
> when the spam from their domain actually markedly increased shortly after
> their announcement.
>
> > Surely they must realize that SOME of their users are going to be 
> > getting personal emails from friends, which is not spam, from this 
> > very large ISP in the US?
>
> Last night we had 130 spams from one earthlink machine, which was very
light
>
> following a previous peak of 40,000 spams in a 24 hour period. And 
> we're only a small regional (country) ISP. I don't believe there have 
> been more than
2
> or 3 complaints (one of them mine) about mail not getting through the
block,
>
> but numerous complaints about spam getting through before the block.
>
> > What if your mom had Earthlink? :-)
>
> I'd get her an account with a decent ISP!
>
> > I would write to them and ask how you can get mail from a legitimate 
> > Earthlink user.
>
> We had them try individually unblocking specific addresses, but 
> earthlink uses different seemingly random mail servers for the same 
> email accounts
so
> it was impossible to filter out individuals :-(
>
> Sorry cbirds, they may be good from the inside, but from the outside
they're
>
> a menace.
>
> Regards,
> KathyW,
>
>

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